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Wingweaver

Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:53 am

sunday night i was ls x142, was working up 2 handed to go for mls,i also have defnder 2xxx,enhancer xxx2, novice pwoers and healer.i had soloed all that exp since the cu, and sunday i couldnt take the solitude any longer and decided to risk group grinding, id have to say i loved it, but as usual a bh came for me within an hr, snared me( can that b spammed so i can never get up?) and continued to shoot me until i was incapped 3 times, i lost 220k, which brought my exp down to -70k, i talked to a friend afterwards and i decided to use my last respec to get force run so im now ls xx4x, enhancer 2xx2, healer 1xxx , noivce powers and the same defnder, i just want to know what does mls give me besides the state attacks from one handed, which can easily get that branch, i know it says that if my accuracy is higher than the defense i get a damage bonus, but does mls give more acccuracy than a master defender? and what real advantages are to having mls? since we now can have a maximum of 45 ls block, whats the point? i am going to get force aura for sure, but i dont want to grind all thsi stuff it is unnessecary, id really like to get some skills in powers, but my current template i have plans for doesnt have any extra for it and im afraid i might b the first person with a screwed up template, im going for as of now, mls, defnder 4x4x, healer 4xx4, enhancer 4xx2, i beleve thats all the skill points.

anybody know if this is good?

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Wingweaver

Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:17 am

#2

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trajen2

Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:26 am

#3

yes. its worth it

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Boatsheets

Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:31 am

#4

trajen2 wrote:
yes. its worth it

I am a firm believer in MLS - I have had it since the CU went live (I was LS 4444 before and dropped the 0004 of healer and used the points to pick up MLS).

The speed and accuracy is VERY VERY noticeable.

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nicmo

Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:33 am

#5

Some say yes, some say no. The ones who say no are most likely master defenders themselves (I'm one of them

). You know, honestly I don't see MLS worth it these days. The most it gives you is a small increase in speed/accurasy and I think five extra experimentation points. You're better off spending those skill points on just one saber style and the technique tree, and using the remaining on other skills like healing or enhancements (I recommend 2h with armor break, but double-blade with area attacks is nice too).

It all depends on what you want to do - if you would like to have all those specials available under the saber trees, go for it. However, I'm only 0404 and am alternating two sabers that rival any MLS. Since most of saber blocking will be available in the FRS, I dont' see any incentive to be mls. Perhaps someone else can enlighten me *EXACTLY* why it's worth it, because I don't see it?

FYI, I tested MLS with 0404 and mdef during the respec period carefully.... when you use improved force speed under enhancements, I saw absolutely no noticible change in damage or the time used... You can achive this more effectively if you alternate with a saber that's been completely efficency experimented and one with completely speed experiementation. Use the efficiency for PVP and normal everyday use, and use the speed for PVE targets only. Remember, an increase in speed means a faster drain of your action/force.

Message Edited by nicmo on 06-21-2005 10:35 AM

sebastainlenzi

Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:35 am

#6

I was really sceptical too, except for 100 LS experimentation, increased speed and damage, and comming soon........states which will make most jedi climb the states heal tree as soon as they cant see and are so dizzy because they are bleeding like a stuck pig...lol.

That of course is if they work as discussed and or dreamed about. Of course you can always drop it at some other time.

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DJPikeman

Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:37 am

#7

i have finished my template, it only has 0404 LS, and i am seriously considering changing to master saber

current temp is

0404 LS

4004 Enhancer

4100 Healer

Master Def

I can tank very well, can sit there and take on multiple ppl attacking (PvE and PvP), but i just dont deal that much damage. my gen 4 LS has 3 good tunes (115/115 -8 FC is the worst on these 3pearls) and 1 average tune (105/105 -8 FC). used all the best resources to craft my saber as well.

SAC on my saber is 100

damage is 603-709

and my modified DPS is 550

nicmo

Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:38 am

#8

DJPikeman wrote:

I can tank very well, can sit there and take on multiple ppl attacking (PvE and PvP), but i just dont deal that much damage. my gen 4 LS has 3 good tunes (115/115 -8 FC is the worst on these 3pearls) and 1 average tune (105/105 -8 FC). used all the best resources to craft my saber as well.

SAC on my saber is 100

damage is 603-709

and my modified DPS is 550

You have the identical template I have, and you're complaining about your saber damage?!! Dude, that's some of the most impresive stats I've seen around here. MLS will *NOT* increase your damage rate, trust me.

DJPikeman

Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:41 am

#9

nicmo wrote:

Some say yes, some say no. The ones who say no are most likely master defenders themselves (I'm one of them ). You know, honestly I don't see MLS worth it these days. The most it gives you is a small increase in speed/accurasy and I think five extra experimentation points. You're better off spending those skill points on just one saber style and the technique tree, and using the remaining on other skills like healing or enhancements (I recommend 2h with armor break, but double-blade with area attacks is nice too).

It all depends on what you want to do - if you would like to have all those specials available under the saber trees, go for it. However, I'm only 0404 and am alternating two sabers that rival any MLS. Since most of saber blocking will be available in the FRS, I dont' see any incentive to be mls. Perhaps someone else can enlighten me *EXACTLY* why it's worth it, because I don't see it?

FYI, I tested MLS with 0404 and mdef during the respec period carefully.... when you use improved force speed under enhancements, I saw absolutely no noticible change in damage or the time used... You can achive this more effectively if you alternate with a saber that's been completely efficency experimented and one with completely speed experiementation. Use the efficiency for PVP and normal everyday use, and use the speed for PVE targets only. Remember, an increase in speed means a faster drain of your action/force.

Message Edited by nicmo on 06-21-2005 10:35 AM

this is why i am at a dilemna hehe, iseethese posts about how there is not much difference between MLS and 4004 or 0404 or 0044. i have not had MLS yet, so we'll see. thx for all the info tho

nicmo

Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:46 am

#10

DJPikeman wrote:

this is why i am at a dilemna hehe, iseethese posts about how there is not much difference between MLS and 4004 or 0404 or 0044. i have not had MLS yet, so we'll see. thx for all the info tho

I tested this deeply and trust me, when you use force speed the additional points aren't worth jack. I wouldn't lie to you. Your damage rate will be around the same. If you REALLY want to increase your damage, consider picking up another ADK and craft a saber totally toward speed. You'll be severely limited on specials, but your armor break coupled with the default saber hit will be destroying mobs not necessarily faster, but with *much less* work involved. This is especially useful insituationswhere you were a Master Defender and using AI to tank high-level mobs: You don't want to waste force on specials, or else you cut down how many AIs you can do before you run dry. Note: You should *ONLY* use this kind of saber on PVE targets. This will kill you in PVP, or any other situation where you'd need specials.

Now if you're a non-enhancer, then yeah I'm all for getting MLS. The extra natural speed without modifiers *IS* noticible and probably justifies the skill points. However, it requires less points to get force speed and two saber treesthan it does to get MLS. Again, if someone can give me an EXACT explaination of your choice in MLS, please do so. What situation would you need it for? I'm seriously curious.

Message Edited by nicmo on 06-21-2005 10:48 AM

trajen2

Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:51 am

#11

nicmo wrote:

DJPikeman wrote:

I can tank very well, can sit there and take on multiple ppl attacking (PvE and PvP), but i just dont deal that much damage. my gen 4 LS has 3 good tunes (115/115 -8 FC is the worst on these 3pearls) and 1 average tune (105/105 -8 FC). used all the best resources to craft my saber as well.

SAC on my saber is 100

damage is 603-709

and my modified DPS is 550

You have the identical template I have, and you're complaining about your saber damage?!! Dude, that's some of the most impresive stats I've seen around here. MLS will *NOT* increase your damage rate, trust me.

mine has 3 good tuned and one average (99, -9)

SAC 95
FC 8

dmg 650-759
mod dps 619

This is WITH MLS

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Grixxly

Tue Jun 21, 2005 11:10 am

#12

trajen2 wrote:

nicmo wrote:

DJPikeman wrote:

I can tank very well, can sit there and take on multiple ppl attacking (PvE and PvP), but i just dont deal that much damage. my gen 4 LS has 3 good tunes (115/115 -8 FC is the worst on these 3pearls) and 1 average tune (105/105 -8 FC). used all the best resources to craft my saber as well.

SAC on my saber is 100

damage is 603-709

and my modified DPS is 550

You have the identical template I have, and you're complaining about your saber damage?!! Dude, that's some of the most impresive stats I've seen around here. MLS will *NOT* increase your damage rate, trust me.

mine has 3 good tuned and one average (99, -9)

SAC 95
FC 8

dmg 650-759
mod dps 619

This is WITH MLS

damn... I must be bugged or something... My BEST pearl is 108 -8

And post CU I've tuned about 5 premium pearls and 4 premium crystals and the best tuned 82 -4... premium crystal last night tuned 22 -7... my saber sucks!

tib-infinity

Tue Jun 21, 2005 11:12 am

#13

All I can say is you NEED 2 Masters

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