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Message Edited by DustusNavar on 09-23-2005 10:56 AM

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DustusNavar wrote:

The biggest argurment against making jedi a strong, alpha class that they should be is that it can't be done in a MMO because then all players will have to be the alpha class to compete. Well, since this is Star Wars and there's nothing more Star Warsy than a jedi I tend to believe that a majority of players would want to be jedi anyways...

But here's what I would like to see: remove jedi from the pvpGCW. Get them out of there. Jedi are supposed to be in hiding, not fighting wars. The only jedi that is involved in the GCW is Luke. That's it. Let Luke be our flag bearer, we're all supposed tokeep it low key. Let's all agree that, for the sake of the game, we do not belong in this fight. That's why we are given a second character slot, this is the toon we should be fighting the war with. The FRS should be the jedi's GCW, we should be fighting each other (and bounty hunters).

Now, once we're out of the pvp GCW we can actually be made stronger, like a jedi should. Increase our damage output, increase our healing abilities, etc.

Under the new systema BH should not be able to stand toe to toe with a fully prepared, fully templated jedi. The BH should have to plan their attack very carefully to be able to kill a jedi, i.e. find one in battle who's already wounded, etc. This would be much more in line with the Star Wars universe. BH have great NPC missions with great rewards, so it's not like they'd have nothing to do. Quite the opposite. If jedi were stronger it would give the BH more of a challenge and make the missions much more interesting and involved, as there'd be a lot more to getting your mark besides launching a few droids. Actual skill and planning would have to be used to be able to take down your make. I'd also like to see the payout raised to be inline with the new, more powerful jedi.

I know it's not a new idea, but with the FRS currently being revamped (hopefully) now would be the perfect time to start the ball rolling on this change.

Message Edited by DustusNavar on 09-23-2005 10:56 AM

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I would not mind that at al as long as the GCW was kept in space... I would be soo sad if they took us out of level playing field as in space.

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DustusNavar wrote:

The biggest argurment against making jedi a strong, alpha class that they should be is that it can't be done in a MMO because then all players will have to be the alpha class to compete. Well, since this is Star Wars and there's nothing more Star Warsy than a jedi I tend to believe that a majority of players would want to be jedi anyways...

But here's what I would like to see: remove jedi from the pvpGCW. Get them out of there. Jedi are supposed to be in hiding, not fighting wars. The only jedi that is involved in the GCW is Luke. That's it. Let Luke be our flag bearer, we're all supposed tokeep it low key. Let's all agree that, for the sake of the game, we do not belong in this fight. That's why we are given a second character slot, this is the toon we should be fighting the war with. The FRS should be the jedi's GCW, we should be fighting each other (and bounty hunters).

Now, once we're out of the pvp GCW we can actually be made stronger, like a jedi should. Increase our damage output, increase our healing abilities, etc.

Under the new systema BH should not be able to stand toe to toe with a fully prepared, fully templated jedi. The BH should have to plan their attack very carefully to be able to kill a jedi, i.e. find one in battle who's already wounded, etc. This would be much more in line with the Star Wars universe. BH have great NPC missions with great rewards, so it's not like they'd have nothing to do. Quite the opposite. If jedi were stronger it would give the BH more of a challenge and make the missions much more interesting and involved, as there'd be a lot more to getting your mark besides launching a few droids. Actual skill and planning would have to be used to be able to take down your make. I'd also like to see the payout raised to be inline with the new, more powerful jedi.

I know it's not a new idea, but with the FRS currently being revamped (hopefully) now would be the perfect time to start the ball rolling on this change.

Message Edited by DustusNavar on 09-23-200510:56 AM

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I agree with you 100% Dustus, I have seen many non Jedi quit the GCW because jedi are involved. In my opinion it would promote the GCW for non jedi and give us the power that we once had back. Taking us out of the GCW would benefit us in all aspects as I see it. And as another said in this thread, if you must fight in the GCW make it a massive penalty if you get killed.

/sign

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Heekae wrote:

this aint the movies this is a game.

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I have been Jedi for awhile now but this is my firt post in this forum because I was MBH/MP before I unlocked and felt my place was on the BH boards.

I am glad that other Jedi feel as I have felt for a long time.. (way before unlocking) That if Jedi are to be as strong as they should, they should be out of the GCW.

Noone (except George Lucas maybe) says SOE can't create a whole backstory wherein all the Jedi have not disappeared from this timeline. And that a war has raged between the light and dark sides every since the end of the clone wars, in the shadows and the outer rim.. hidden from the Empire...

It may not have been in the movies but this is a reality in the game.. Jedi exist and need a reason for having unlocked... Being diminished in power and helping in the GCW shouldn't be it. Being stronger than normal players and fighting for Good or Evil IS JEDI... Luke Skywalker is the exception to this Galaxies rule...

Message Edited by Dookseid on 09-23-2005 09:45 PM

Ok I can understand some of the reasons for removing jedi from the GCW. Going anywhere in the galaxy and seeing lightsabers everywhere got annoying real fast. I went to kashyyyk a few weeks after the expansions release and watched three players, Whom I've passed by multiple times through the life time of my SWG gaming career, roll by decked in the paddy pajamas force runnin. I then lost count of the amount of jedi i saw there-after. I could sympathize with the average player after that. More so afterI stumbled onto a cantina with 20 of them dueling inside.

The amount of jedi running amock kinda made me happy when they nerfed us down to the elite prof template level. What group of players is gonna face an army of jedi who are sopposedly 1.5 times stronger the the average one. That number adds up quick in bulk and would roll over any non-jedi force.As it stands now jedi isone to one to any well built combat template, which it should be. if SOE gets off of their a$$es and implaments another FRS like system I want to to include all players and offercomperative power progression to all profs.

One of these days people will realize that jedi isn't stronger then them, just more skilled at PvP then the average joe. I'm LS 0442, Enhancer 4003, mdefender, with healer 4000, and can stand toe to toe with any melee doc template. The MBH/MCM doesn't bother me either. There just an extended kill. I lose and win to both types of fighters and thats how it should be. I'm just waiting for the day when a 1337 pvP'er discovers the pure range template. master marksman, Mrifles,Mpistoleer, and 4430 carbineer. the enamy CAN'T move from its spot for as long as the player has an action bar.

Giving jedi their own faction war to fight in might be interesting but I doubt SOE is capable of creating anything immersive enough to warrent seperating jedi from the GCW on a combative level. So I am content to be at the same combat effectiveness as every one else to promote GCW PvP.

Well, if we're gonna be at everyone elses level, drop the xp requirement to standard and let's just makeinitiate a starting profession..??

Not a flame at anyone here, just the poor implementation by the game designers I guess....

Message Edited by Dookseid on 09-23-2005 10:02 PM