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Thread: after a few Fixes do you think jedi....

Lord-R
Wed Oct 05, 2005 3:33 pm
#1

After a few Fixes do you think jedi will once again more so than just slightly better?


/please Discuss





the Fixes I'm talking about are the real ones not the "make my saber hit harder" or "make my heals better"


I'm referring to....


  • the speed bug that effects every profession.

  • the dropping of prems/flawless again

  • Ruby bile working like it should (according to its description by reducing stim usage to 30secs per for 15mins or so)

  • there are more real fixes out there but this is just of the top of my head.


with the speed issue being fixed we should be able to dish twice the damage in half the time. I would think this would get rid of the "who ever runs out of mind first will lose" but in turn might turn it to a "who ever runs out of action first will lose"


the dropping of prem/flawless no explanation needed.


Ruby bile working like it should (according to its description). I think this reason is why healing is so insane. With the ruby+stim combo you can heal 7 times back to back. By fixing this and fixing the speed bug i see Jedis across the board becomingtougher opponets than a master doc/TKM


call me an optimist but these 3 fixes would bring back jedi to the level they should be at. Hopefully this thought will bring a bit of hope for those jedis out there that feel that we are no better than any other profession in this game. Which is my reason for posting this.





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Nastypope
Wed Oct 05, 2005 3:40 pm
#2

Well Devs dont care about fixing Jedi we are the red headed step children these days.



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Lord-R
Wed Oct 05, 2005 3:46 pm
#3






Nastypope wrote:
Well Devs dont care about fixing Jedi we are the red headed step children these days.





2 of the 3 fixes i was posted are not Jedi only bugs




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slappydude
Wed Oct 05, 2005 4:11 pm
#4






Lord-R wrote:

After a few Fixes do you think jedi will once again more so than just slightly better?


/please Discuss






These fixes will help; but then we'll just get nerfed again. The devs want Jedi out of the game pure and simple; but can't remove them for obvious reasons. My thinking is that their plan is to:


1. Let anyone be a jedi that wants to be one.


2. Make the jedi so useless and painful to playthat only the really masochistic players will actually play them.


3. Take those remaining stubborn players and give them "jedi content" that takes them away from the rest of the game so nobody else ever sees them.


Once these objectives have been met and only then will the jedi "problem" be fixed through attrition.


Steps 1 and 2 are already in full swing. I think we'll see step 3 when the new FRS is released or shortly thereafter.


Detow_Skrimy
Wed Oct 05, 2005 4:13 pm
#5

the speed bug only affects sabers.



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Lord-R
Wed Oct 05, 2005 4:23 pm
#6






Detow_Skrimy wrote:

the speed bug only affects sabers.








The way it was Explained to meis....... that Sabers are the only weapons that can not have a power up Equiped. and power ups are "fixing" the speed bug. which in trun makes it seem like sabers are the only ones that are effected by the speed bug snice we cant equip power ups.


if the source where i got that information is wrong then it still leaves one thing true.


its still a bug.




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Silas101
Wed Oct 05, 2005 5:42 pm
#7






Lord-R wrote:

After a few Fixes do you think jedi will once again more so than just slightly better?


/please Discuss





the Fixes I'm talking about are the real ones not the "make my saber hit harder" or "make my heals better"


I'm referring to....


  • the speed bug that effects every profession.

  • the dropping of prems/flawless again

  • Ruby bile working like it should (according to its description by reducing stim usage to 30secs per for 15mins or so)

  • there are more real fixes out there but this is just of the top of my head.


with the speed issue being fixed we should be able to dish twice the damage in half the time. I would think this would get rid of the "who ever runs out of mind first will lose" but in turn might turn it to a "who ever runs out of action first will lose"


the dropping of prem/flawless no explanation needed.


Ruby bile working like it should (according to its description). I think this reason is why healing is so insane. With the ruby+stim combo you can heal 7 times back to back. By fixing this and fixing the speed bug i see Jedis across the board becomingtougher opponets than a master doc/TKM


call me an optimist but these 3 fixes would bring back jedi to the level they should be at. Hopefully this thought will bring a bit of hope for those jedis out there that feel that we are no better than any other profession in this game. Which is my reason for posting this.





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Blackmercenary
Wed Oct 05, 2005 5:58 pm
#8


Post like this have been getting to me lately, because devs just dont seem to care anymore and we are helpless in gettingthe issuesfixed. I log on everyday building up my jedi with seas, and hoping some day they will find the time to fix these issues.



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Lord-R
Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:29 pm
#9






Blackmercenary wrote:


Post like this have been getting to me lately, because devs just dont seem to care anymore and we are helpless in gettingthe issuesfixed. I log on everyday building up my jedi with seas, and hoping some day they will find the time to fix these issues.



Blackfox
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yup yup i hear ya.


so many things i would like to vent but im not one to vent so i wont.





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NoStyleGuy
Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:37 pm
#10

from a Non jedi- i'd have to say it does suck your peals aren't dropping. I'd have to say the speed thing probably wont be as devistating as it seems. because (like u said) it affects all profs.
the thing about ruby bliel is- i think if it actually worked as intended(every 30 seconds instead of 60) it would actually be more healing. Sure u can heal 7 times back to back, but as soon as thats up, your stomach is full and ur screwed. now only using 16filling (1 ruby) u can heal twice as much.



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Lord-R
Wed Oct 05, 2005 7:22 pm
#11









NoStyleGuy wrote:
from a Non jedi- i'd have to say it does suck your peals aren't dropping. I'd have to say the speed thing probably wont be as devistating as it seems. because (like u said) it affects all profs. it does effects all profestion but all profesions but jedi can equip power ups and most non-jedis have power ups on their weapons. power-ups are supposedly fixing the speed bug allowing them to swing/shoot at their mod speed. unlike jedis


the thing about ruby bliel is- i think if it actually worked as intended(every 30 seconds instead of 60) it would actually be more healing. Sure u can heal 7 times back to back, but as soon as thats up, your stomach is full and ur screwed. now only using 16filling (1 ruby) u can heal twice as much.


hmmm, I've thought of this and yes i see your point. 1 ruby bile would last 15mins andshorted the stimpack reuse by 30sec rather than instant.


but thats still a 30sec down time before they could use another stim. forceing them touse there own healing skills.


using your own heals has a cooldown timer that effectsall other actionsas well. like bacta toss or spray. you use those you wont be able topreformanother actionagain for what I think is like what 3-5 secs?


im not sure if im explaing myself well enough but takeing what i just said about healing and fixing the speed bug will allow jedis to be more offensive rather than defensive.







Message Edited by Lord-R on 10-05-2005 07:24 PM




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Pday
Wed Oct 05, 2005 7:40 pm
#12

fixing the ruby+stim would hurt jedi alot more than anyone else, currently my melee/doc stacker can heal for about 4.9k in 6 seconds, compared to my jedi healing 1500, my melee/doc also have : 230 melee def, cob, 6500/6500 armor break sliced armor, and a 730 min blade of nyenthioris.


and regularly hit jedi for 900+





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Lord-R
Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:10 pm
#13


Message Edited by Lord-R on 10-05-2005 08:11 PM




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