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Thread: All the people who blame SOE for this change please read slowly.

elcin
Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:02 am
#1

You think SOE is behind all of this?


You are wrong.


Did you know that even DEVs dont knowwhats gonna change in the game on some schedule...


Do you know who takes those big change decisions?


Answer is LUCASARTS.


Did you know that this CU2 code started being written since patch 17?And code is already done?


Did you know that this upcoming oneis the ACTUAL CU concept made by Lucasarts.And the CU we are playing was SOE's keep the players busy for some project.


Please THINK before flaming anyone Tiggs,Thunderheart,Baciacca,Blixtev,CSRs....


It's not their fault REALLY.


They re just given with some certain things to do with certain timings by LucasArts.


They REALLY REALLY didnt know what was coming till Lucas said them do this and do that.


Please consider what i am saying and DO NOT quit until u at least try the new system.Just try it.May u like it.


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Sinara-Snake
Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:05 am
#2

I find that hard to believe you mean to say not one single dev didn't even have a hint at all about any changes at all to what may very well change the whole game completely?




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Soapflake
Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:07 am
#3

I don't think SOE would have worked hard on all the revamps for creature handler and squad leader just to see it get thrown away.



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Kanemura
Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:07 am
#4


Despite your distorted views, I have one comment for you...it was SOE who sold the new expansion, not Lucas. SOE...that's right. And the aforementioned devs? They all had their part in this. They knew this was coming. How dare they lie to us and lead us on like this...


That $30 you just spent on ToOW is a waste, as the content will no longer be valid after the new CU. The entire game will be different. That may be Lucas' doing, but it is SOE's fault for lying to us.


And don't say they didn't know...they knew the whole f'n time.




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Fluggycha
Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:08 am
#5






Soapflake wrote:
I don't think SOE would have worked hard on all the revamps for creature handler and squad leader just to see it get thrown away.





This just makes me believe that everything is out of the Devs hands. No logic in revamping classes just to remove them from the game entirely a few months later.





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elcin
Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:09 am
#6






Sinara-Snake wrote:

I find that hard to believe you mean to say not one single dev didn't even have a hint at all about any changes at all to what may very well change the whole game completely?







Are they stupid that they invest too much effort and time on professions revamps and all of a sudden all pops away.Do u find it logical.Indeed none of the devs were not aware if this change would ever come.....or when it will come.Lucas gave the order and its now being executed.


And this is no rumors i can swear i got the info from someone we all know on TeamSpeak.No bullsh!t i say.






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Sinara-Snake
Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:09 am
#7


Besides even if this was the case, that wouldn't explain the countless times even before the RotW expansion for the dev's silence on many things effecting both Jedi and the general changes about how Jedi will be.



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Sheridan_Darkstar
Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:09 am
#8






Sinara-Snake wrote:

I find that hard to believe you mean to say not one single dev didn't even have a hint at all about any changes at all to what may very well change the whole game completely?







QFE


The Devs are just that... Developers. Who wrote the code into the game, exactly? LA may own the rights, but the game is written and produced by SOE.


A little, "head's up" might have been nice.



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elcin
Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:17 am
#9






Sheridan_Darkstar wrote:





Sinara-Snake wrote:

I find that hard to believe you mean to say not one single dev didn't even have a hint at all about any changes at all to what may very well change the whole game completely?







QFE


The Devs are just that... Developers. Who wrote the code into the game, exactly? LA may own the rights, but the game is written and produced by SOE.


A little, "head's up" might have been nice.





SOE shaped and shaping the game on its own.UNTIL Lucas tell em what to do.Once Lucas says do this and do that.They just do....nothing else.Lucasarts has more influence on the game than u ever know.I repeat once again Lucas is behind this change.DEVs of course knew this MAYBE will come to live sometime since they coded it...but it would be simply stupid to tell the community may they gonna change the whole system again before getting lucas' order to implement it.


And devs stayed silent all this time about frs pearl fixes bla bla bla....because they WERE UNCERTAIN.They did their best to not mislead us.You can be very angry at this moment.I was too...But not to SOE anymore.Blame someone else changing an RPG game into a console game...which will be released on famous console platforms as well....






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Swanheart
Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:19 am
#10






elcin wrote:

You think SOE is behind all of this?


You are wrong.


Did you know that even DEVs dont knowwhats gonna change in the game on some schedule...


Do you know who takes those big change decisions?


Answer is LUCASARTS.


Did you know that this CU2 code started being written since patch 17?And code is already done?


Did you know that this upcoming oneis the ACTUAL CU concept made by Lucasarts.And the CU we are playing was SOE's keep the players busy for some project.


Please THINK before flaming anyone Tiggs,Thunderheart,Baciacca,Blixtev,CSRs....


It's not their fault REALLY.


They re just given with some certain things to do with certain timings by LucasArts.


They REALLY REALLY didnt know what was coming till Lucas said them do this and do that.


Please consider what i am saying and DO NOT quit until u at least try the new system.Just try it.May u like it.


Best Regards.





QFE



GAME OVER



Sheridan_Darkstar
Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:21 am
#11






elcin wrote:





Sheridan_Darkstar wrote:





Sinara-Snake wrote:

I find that hard to believe you mean to say not one single dev didn't even have a hint at all about any changes at all to what may very well change the whole game completely?







QFE


The Devs are just that... Developers. Who wrote the code into the game, exactly? LA may own the rights, but the game is written and produced by SOE.


A little, "head's up" might have been nice.





SOE shaped and shaping the game on its own.UNTIL Lucas tell em what to do.Once Lucas says do this and do that.They just do....nothing else.Lucasarts has more influence on the game than u ever know.I repeat once again Lucas is behind this change.DEVs of course knew this MAYBE will come to live sometime since they coded it...but it would be simply stupid to tell the community may they gonna change the whole system again before getting lucas' order to implement it.


And devs stayed silent all this time about frs pearl fixes bla bla bla....because they WERE UNCERTAIN.They did their best to not mislead us.You can be very angry at this moment.I was too...But not to SOE anymore.Blame someone else changing an RPG game into a console game...which will be released on famous console platforms as well....








I'm guessing Playstation 360. BUT, like I said... A little "head's up" might have been nice.



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ghettochilde
Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:24 am
#12






Soapflake wrote:
I don't think SOE would have worked hard on all the revamps for creature handler and squad leader just to see it get thrown away.





What makes you think its being thrown away?


I don't know what is up with the CH revamp, but the last two major revamps were Squad Leader, and the upcoming (or was) Ranger revamp.


Read the "iconic class" descriptions better. Squad Leader = Officer. Ranger = Spy. They didn't waste anything.





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Sinara-Snake
Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:24 am
#13






elcin wrote:





Sheridan_Darkstar wrote:





Sinara-Snake wrote:

I find that hard to believe you mean to say not one single dev didn't even have a hint at all about any changes at all to what may very well change the whole game completely?







QFE


The Devs are just that... Developers. Who wrote the code into the game, exactly? LA may own the rights, but the game is written and produced by SOE.


A little, "head's up" might have been nice.





SOE shaped and shaping the game on its own.UNTIL Lucas tell em what to do.Once Lucas says do this and do that.They just do....nothing else.Lucasarts has more influence on the game than u ever know.I repeat once again Lucas is behind this change.DEVs of course knew this MAYBE will come to live sometime since they coded it...but it would be simply stupid to tell the community may they gonna change the whole system again before getting lucas' order to implement it.


And devs stayed silent all this time about frs pearl fixes bla bla bla....because they WERE UNCERTAIN.They did their best to not mislead us.You can be very angry at this moment.I was too...But not to SOE anymore.Blame someone else changing an RPG game into a console game...which will be released on famous console platforms as well....








Doesn't matter in my opinion. I don't care who you are. If the general community doesn't know what's going on and is waiting on the changes given that Jedi earned the right to have a FRS since that is our content, just like what the devs say Jedi is a BH's content. Besides the fact that the pearls weren't fixed.


They should've just flat out said we are awaiting future plans from Lucasarts and do not know when we can impliment any changes to the Jedi profession.


They said we would have our pearls fixed, they did address the FRS and said to some extent that it would be implimented again. These were lies that were born from ignorance. That is what you're basically saying.


Let's put it this way, if they were honest from the start. Most of the Jedi would still complain, but at least we knew what's what.



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