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Thread: NGE defined carebear pwnt

TheBusta
Sun Nov 06, 2005 9:54 am
#1







Kamujin wrote:






MsNiL wrote:






Kamujin wrote:
That being said, SWG is being reduced to a console game. Can you honestly say that SOE is "enhancing" the product that it sold you by taking away about 60%+ of the features and making the user interface more clumsy


They are now able to spend most of their time on making pve/pvp fun instead of balancing 2 professions while another 33 professions are decaying/suffering.






That doesn't meet the definition of an enhancement by a LONG shot.


At best what you've said is now they have another story to peddle in an attempt to buy more time.


If you contracted and paid me to build a house for you. Then 2 years later I came back and told you that your house isn't finished, it going to be 60% smaller, and someone else is going to live in it, I doubt you would describe that as an "enhanced" house.





Gotta admit its spot on.




NGE explained
SOE say, "Give us dollars, we make game fixed."
Me give SOE dollars.
SOE say, "We changed mind. We make differnt game for someone else. Thanks for dollars."

Kamujin
Sun Nov 06, 2005 9:57 am
#2

Thats a little harsh bro.


MS Nil has put considerable effort into helping the Jedi community.


I do think she's been FAR too much of a nerf caller, but I still respect here for her effort, if not her opinions.





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DarthPolecat
Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:12 am
#3

MsNil does have her talents, there are some things she does well like fact gathering.


Butshe is way to biased to her own opinion and unable to look at things from other people point of view, also she takes any type of criticisms as a personal attack. She just wants everything her way right away.


I love you Seana, i just don't agree with you most of the time.





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Kamujin
Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:15 am
#4






DarthPolecat wrote:

MsNil does have her talents, there are some things she does well like fact gathering.


Butshe is way to biased to her own opinion and unable to look at things from other people point of view, also she takes any type of criticisms as a personal attack. She just wants everything her way right away.


I love you Seana, i just don't agree with you most of the time.








Honestly, I think she's just not good at the PvP game. Maybe she just doesn't like to PvP. That doesn't make her bad, but it certainly creates tension because SWG has become mostly a PvP game.


Why is SWG a PvP game? Simple, most of the PvE people left a long time ago, because SOE never delivered on their promise to finish the game.






Kamujin Kravsherannnntnxgggggggggggggggggg

"I'm scissors. Paper is fine. Nerf rock."
Digitalalchemyzt
Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:36 am
#5

quite possibly, but ive been following nil for some time now and she is in total advocacy of all of the new changes pretty much. ALL.


Now that she and hers have gotten their way, she is happy now.


Kamujin
Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:47 am
#6






Digitalalchemyzt wrote:

quite possibly, but ive been following nil for some time now and she is in total advocacy of all of the new changes pretty much. ALL.


Now that she and hers have gotten their way, she is happy now.







I've followed these forums and I know most of the outspoken poster's talking points. I don't think she's EVER called for SWG to be made into a console game, nor do I think she EVER called for this game to have 60%+ of its abilities removed.



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"I'm scissors. Paper is fine. Nerf rock."
Ameno
Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:49 am
#7






Kamujin wrote:





Digitalalchemyzt wrote:

quite possibly, but ive been following nil for some time now and she is in total advocacy of all of the new changes pretty much. ALL.


Now that she and hers have gotten their way, she is happy now.







I've followed these forums and I know most of the outspoken poster's talking points. I don't think she's EVER called for SWG to be made into a console game, nor do I think she EVER called for this game to have 60%+ of its abilities removed.





she still seems pretty happy about it, anyways. UNITE OR DIE!



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MsNiL
Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:50 am
#8







Kamujin wrote:
Honestly, I think she's just not good at the PvP game. Maybe she just doesn't like to PvP. That doesn't make her bad, but it certainly creates tension because SWG has become mostly a PvP game. Why is SWG a PvP game? Simple, most of the PvE people left a long time ago, because SOE never delivered on their promise to finish the game.


I tried to get myself involved in pvp, but the Rebel community on corbantis where always self-absorbed and unfriendly to newcomers while the Imperial community where always great and friendly to their new. I am a hardcore rebel so I did not want to swap sides, and without any community feel what's the point of pvp'ing in SWG? All support there is is a recruiter and a pvp rating and that's it. When I gave up on the "hometeam" so did the rest of my guild. The rebels on Corbantis are now extremely few.

Message Edited by MsNiL on 11-06-2005 06:52 PM



--- Cancelled 24th November 2006
Reason: The lack of multiplayer pve content and Star Wars feel.
For 3 years I have tried to find excuses to stay in game but only the expansions offered me what I subscribed for in the first place: A multiplayer Star Wars pve experience with friends around the globe. I found friends but with almost no addition of pve content they dropped out one by one. Now it's my turn.
Ameno
Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:51 am
#9






MsNiL wrote:






Kamujin wrote:
Honestly, I think she's just not good at the PvP game. Maybe she just doesn't like to PvP. That doesn't make her bad, but it certainly creates tension because SWG has become mostly a PvP game. Why is SWG a PvP game? Simple, most of the PvE people left a long time ago, because SOE never delivered on their promise to finish the game.


I tried to get myself involved in pvp, but the Rebel community where always self-absorbed and unfriendly to newcomers while the Imperial community where always great and friendly to their new. I am a hardcore rebel so I did not want to swap sides, and without any community feel what's the point of pvp'ing in SWG? All support there is is a recruiter and a pvp rating and that's it.






we all know the rebels are the bad guys..



Name:Tatsu
Master of Combat and the ways of the Force.
-Enlightened 8/12/04-
I am grey. I stand between the candle and the star.
I stand between the darkness and the light.
___________________________________________
?ire rains upon those who stand before me..

a Second Life for free(checkit out!)
Digitalalchemyzt
Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:55 am
#10

it seems to me the new system will severly cut diversity in classes in this game..
MsNiL
Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:55 am
#11







Digitalalchemyzt wrote:
Quite possibly, but ive been following nil for some time now and she is in total advocacy of all of the new changes pretty much. ALL.
Now that she and hers have gotten their way, she is happy now.


I am concerned about the "missing" stuff and diversity, but I do have more faith in a 9 profession system where emphasis isnt put on bh-vs-jedi only.
I sincerly hope things like Lightning can be unlocked through loot or quests. I cannot imagine a starwars game where Dark Jedi cant call lightning.

Without more than 9 professions to focus on, all their effort can go to expanding their game and balance just a few professions, instead of balancing just a few while the majority of the game is suffering.

Message Edited by MsNiL on 11-06-2005 06:56 PM



--- Cancelled 24th November 2006
Reason: The lack of multiplayer pve content and Star Wars feel.
For 3 years I have tried to find excuses to stay in game but only the expansions offered me what I subscribed for in the first place: A multiplayer Star Wars pve experience with friends around the globe. I found friends but with almost no addition of pve content they dropped out one by one. Now it's my turn.
DarthPolecat
Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:56 am
#12






MsNiL wrote:







Kamujin wrote:
Honestly, I think she's just not good at the PvP game. Maybe she just doesn't like to PvP. That doesn't make her bad, but it certainly creates tension because SWG has become mostly a PvP game. Why is SWG a PvP game? Simple, most of the PvE people left a long time ago, because SOE never delivered on their promise to finish the game.


I tried to get myself involved in pvp, but the Rebel community on corbantis where always self-absorbed and unfriendly to newcomers while the Imperial community where always great and friendly to their new. I am a hardcore rebel so I did not want to swap sides, and without any community feel what's the point of pvp'ing in SWG? All support there is is a recruiter and a pvp rating and that's it. When I gave up on the "hometeam" so did the rest of my guild. The rebels on Corbantis are now extremely few.


Message Edited by MsNiL on 11-06-2005 06:52 PM




you have no idea what your talking about, BP would be welcomed by so many people in pvp. Your problem you dont know who to talk to but im guessing you didnt try to hard. The fight continues, the empire will not enslave the galaxy forever, we just need some brave fighter to continue the war, shame you dont know any.



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To all my Brothers-In-Arms overseas.... GOD BLESS YOU, COME HOME SAFE!


MMKia
Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:04 am
#13






MsNiL wrote:







Digitalalchemyzt wrote:
Quite possibly, but ive been following nil for some time now and she is in total advocacy of all of the new changes pretty much. ALL.
Now that she and hers have gotten their way, she is happy now.


I am concerned about the "missing" stuff and diversity, but I do have more faith in a 9 profession system where emphasis isnt put on bh-vs-jedi only.
I sincerly hope things like Lightning can be unlocked through loot or quests. I cannot imagine a starwars game where Dark Jedi cant call lightning.

Without more than 9 professions to focus on, all their effort can go to expanding their game and balance just a few professions, instead of balancing just a few while the majority of the game is suffering.


Message Edited by MsNiL on 11-06-2005 06:56 PM




The problem with this view is that even before the first Jedi unlocked, SOE couldnt focus on the professions or bugs that were out there when the game went live. Look at the Smuggler profession. They were told about upgrading their profession back in December of the first year of the game. They couldnt take care of the majority of the game then. What makes you think they can honestly do it now?




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