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Thread: master powers needs an armor break type skill also.

Jaidub
Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:29 pm
#1
its a big drag that you need to pick up some sabers to have armor break , i just want to go master powers and no sabers. shouldnt powers be as tough and useful as sabers ? i think it should be a powerful alternative to sabers so we arent all running around looking the same and having the same temps. i think we need to see some more force speed tapes too, powers needs power !!!!!!!
SpaceJawa
Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:31 pm
#2
Ranged professions don't get an armor break. Not saying thats right or wrong, but I think thats why Powers doesn't have one. Or rather, thats one reason why it doesn't.

Message Edited by SpaceJawa on 10-09-2005 01:31 PM

wickie
Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:34 pm
#3
Just pick up 0/4/0/0 sabers, its not that many skillpoints.



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Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:36 pm
#4




Jaidub wrote:

its a big drag that you need to pick up somePowersto have intimidate and an area KD, i just want to go mastersabers and no powers. shouldntsabers be as tough and useful asPowers ? i think it should be a powerful alternative topowers so we arent all running around looking the same and having the same temps. i think we need to see some more force speed tapes too, powers needs power !!!!!!!



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VickLoco
Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:42 pm
#5
I agree with the original poster...and lightsaber armor break means we have to get close which kinda defeats the point of being ranged. Its already bad enough that powers has no greater range than saber throw.



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SpaceJawa
Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:51 pm
#6
If Powers gets an armor break, you're going to have Pistoleers asking for one too, then once they get it, carbs will join in, then rifles...It could go very, very wrong...Careful what you ask for my friends.
mclouj
Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:29 am
#7

We don't need no stinking armour break... leave that up to the glowstick wavers


Seriously though, our two most damaging moves go through armour anyways (choke and lightning). Well, a portion of lightning damage goes through armour not all of it. Armourbreak is a lightsaber skill, end of story. Otherwise we'll have MLS asking for a DOT...





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Durzel
Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:31 am
#8

mclouj wrote:

We don't need no stinking armour break... leave that up to the glowstick wavers

Seriously though, our two most damaging moves go through armour anyways (choke and lightning). Well, a portion of lightning damage goes through armour not all of it. Armourbreak is a lightsaber skill, end of story. Otherwise we'll have MLS asking for a DOT...



Does it? That's news to me because the last time I choked a MDef I hit them for 124 a tick. Does that sound right for a Master level skill? 



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mclouj
Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:34 am
#9




Durzel wrote:




mclouj wrote:

We don't need no stinking armour break... leave that up to the glowstick wavers


Seriously though, our two most damaging moves go through armour anyways (choke and lightning). Well, a portion of lightning damage goes through armour not all of it. Armourbreak is a lightsaber skill, end of story. Otherwise we'll have MLS asking for a DOT...






Does it? That's news to me because the last time I choked a MDef I hit them for 124 a tick. Does that sound right for a Master level skill?



Sorry good point, I forgot that jedi innate armour mitigates it. Choke needs to go through ALL armour IMO.



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Huples_Cat
Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:03 am
#10

Why? I don't see master rifleman having an armor break, why should you? This is just another master powers crying about the fact that they arnt as powerful as MLS because they can't armor break and they can't deal massive damage.


Think about this, who is the last master lightsaber that was able to area KD,snare, cloak, area intimidate, choke, and apply states simultaniously with his saber all at 32 metres? You chose the profession for the fexibility it brings, not for the damage dealing potential and because you probably didn't have the pearls for it (this is another problem witht eh balance of your demand).


In short, shut up, only melee professions get armor break, if you want one, get x 4 x x LS.





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Zarqon
Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:01 am
#11
you are mixing things up. What kills Powers against other jedi isn't armor, it's defense.


Leave armor break to LS and instead to one of two things for powers:


1) give a DefenseBreak skills that lowers defenses (significantly) for the same duration as AB approximately.


2) Increase the minimum damage of all Powers attacks significantly. This will lessen the effects of anyone having too high defenes.


Option 2 seems reasonable as all lightsabers (good or bad) have a very high min dmg, that is a very tight spread. Should be the same for powers attacks, and this would probably help a lot.




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zorf
Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:04 am
#12
you have an armor break its called breach and yes its random and it blows lol.





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VaainEldritch
Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:18 am
#13

It is a shame that MLS/MP is a far less viable skillset than MLS/Meh. I'd always thought of MP as the Dark Side equivalent of Meh, but apparently it doesn't work quite like that.


Powers needs to be looked at and changed - it's needed that for along time. Maybe the FRS in its new incarnation will do for Powers what the old FRS did. A high ranking Dark Jedi with Master Powers was a very nasty opponent...





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