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Thread: powers jedi..

procel
Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:22 pm
#1

u guys with a mpowers temp , how do u fare with jedi v jedi pvp? i know powers is a support role , but any of u beaten mls or mdef temps one on one?




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Checobacca
Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:38 pm
#2

powers is not a support role lol the devs said it isnt it is less favorable now because cloak appears its getting nerfed i on the other hand want mls/mpowers with 4x4x healer or x4x4 ehancer because the force armor defenses and channel enhancer provides goes quite good with synthesteak, also the 4x4x healer allows for many heals as well as statis on enemy so incase you are low on force you can statis then pop a holocron and come back or just get out of your sticky situation, also mpowers is 30+m ranged so if the jedi isnt mpowers as well he wont be able to attack you if you can continuosly kike him with kd lightning and choke remember you can also cloak away




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Silas101
Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:39 pm
#3

i think choke and breach is the only thing mpowers has against mls/mdef. actually breach is the only real good move against mdef cause if they hit AI wit no health u hit them wit breach and it knocks AI out causing them to incap but getn a mdef to this point is very difficuit alone




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Checobacca
Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:41 pm
#4

less and less mdefs now more are switching to the psedo def temp which is mls/4xxx healer/4x4x defender with 34x2 enhancer- this is a very even temp and one of the best all around




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Silas101
Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:48 pm
#5






Checobacca wrote:

less and less mdefs now more are switching to the psedo def temp which is mls/4xxx healer/4x4x defender with 34x2 enhancer- this is a very even temp and one of the best all around




dats my temp. i luv this temp only thing that sucks is force is sucked like crazy if u dont know what ur doing. wit this temp i pwn mpowers. its funny when they try to choke me when force shield/force feedback/force absorb is on. but mdef is still kinda difficuit but like u said most mdef r startn to go this temp i can pwn my own temp as well




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ValinCalred
Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:05 pm
#6

breach doesn't strip ai




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Silas101
Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:12 pm
#7






ValinCalred wrote:
breach doesn't strip ai




ive seen it and testedb4. it worked 4 me but that was awhile ago tho.




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ValinCalred
Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:37 pm
#8

nope




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Windrider01
Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:45 pm
#9

I used my token respec to become amaster powers jedi, I've been one for quite some time and my assessment -


1) Master Powers is a support template -Area attacks, lack of defense in MP, below average damage with large fc, sac cost, low ranged accuracy even at master level,A lot of specials in MP are state attacks.


2) Breach is useless, it is the most pathetic master skill i can think of. - Breach misses a lot, It never takes off the buffs you need to take off aka. force armor, shield,ect. expect to use breach 3-4 times to strip anything of significance off the target. High force cost and the time spent using breach makes it harmful to the Mpowers jedi using it. Beach only affects a hand full of force buffs...Avoid Incap. is not one of them.All states removed will cost less in FC andtime for your enemy to replace. The devs need to move this skill to the novice box and have it cost 0 force and spam an apology to master Powers jedi everywhere, so that every time Breach is used I'll get a tell from SOE apologizing to me.


3) defense buffs in Enhancer tree andtwo branchesin the defender tree that render MP impotent --force feedback, force shield, force absorb that specifically defend against MP attacks on top of the normal defenses that most every attack must go through; combine that w/ the low damage and high sac/fc makes MP rather pitiful in combat.


4) The ones that think MP is a good attack tree are the ones that have MLS; They are confusing the two. If you want to stand a chance in jvj Master powers is not for you.


5) If you want a good dueling template go with MLS / dabble Defender / 3400 enh / 4--- healer. If you want a challenge and limit your usefulness to large battles then chose Master Powers.




The main assets of MP is the AREA attacks and the ability to cloak, in 1v1 you will lose to other jedi and MCM/+combat prof.


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super_moomoo
Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:14 pm
#10






Windrider01 wrote:

I used my token respec to become amaster powers jedi, I've been one for quite some time and my assessment -


1) Master Powers is a support template -Area attacks, lack of defense in MP, below average damage with large fc, sac cost, low ranged accuracy even at master level,A lot of specials in MP are state attacks.


2) Breach is useless, it is the most pathetic master skill i can think of. - Breach misses a lot, It never takes off the buffs you need to take off aka. force armor, shield,ect. expect to use breach 3-4 times to strip anything of significance off the target. High force cost and the time spent using breach makes it harmful to the Mpowers jedi using it. Beach only affects a hand full of force buffs...Avoid Incap. is not one of them.All states removed will cost less in FC andtime for your enemy to replace. The devs need to move this skill to the novice box and have it cost 0 force and spam an apology to master Powers jedi everywhere, so that every time Breach is used I'll get a tell from SOE apologizing to me.


3) defense buffs in Enhancer tree andtwo branchesin the defender tree that render MP impotent --force feedback, force shield, force absorb that specifically defend against MP attacks on top of the normal defenses that most every attack must go through; combine that w/ the low damage and high sac/fc makes MP rather pitiful in combat.


4) The ones that think MP is a good attack tree are the ones that have MLS; They are confusing the two. If you want to stand a chance in jvj Master powers is not for you.


5) If you want a good dueling template go with MLS / dabble Defender / 3400 enh / 4--- healer. If you want a challenge and limit your usefulness to large battles then chose Master Powers.




The main assets of MP is the AREA attacks and the ability to cloak, in 1v1 you will lose to other jedi and MCM/+combat prof.


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You obviously have no clue how to play as mpowers.


First off breach is by far one of the best things for a mpower against jedi. Yes htey can just throw stuff up again. Yes breech doesnt always work. Thats not th epoint. A jedi with forceshield up is blocking alot of your damage. you lower it even for 5 seconds and youve gotten an extra lightning attack in. Thats always extra force/time that jedi has had to waste.


The defense line in enhancer sucks for mpower. Feedback can kill you without the jedi even attacking you. Just dont attack witht his on. Breech and try to get it off and intim. Both these give back very little damage to you (like 100 each)


1vs1 jedi you can stand a good chance. 2vs1 and your most likely just gonna have to run (due to high force costs/ them healing each other) But 1vs1 if you actually know how ot play your profession you can win.


As for the area attacks yeah they suck sometimes ins mall pvp/creature/npc areas but deal with. you should know area kd is an AREA so use it to your advantage (and its always fun to run into a big gorup cloaked and area kd and try to run off )


Im mpower menhancer 4/0/0/0 healer and MCM's are not a problem. Jedi are tough an dmay require a holo but if im actually into the fight i can do very well. The only people who hate mpowers are those who respeced and are used ot the style of a mls where its more or less Attack A followed by B followed by C rinse repeat. powers users need ot get lightning in as much as they can. As with keeping choke up. If you fight a jedi root em. keep out of 6m even if it means kiting like a mofo till you reroot them. A good few starting attacks (asumming they are rooted) is choke/lightning/breech/lightnign/area kd/lightning/force weaken than i liek to breech but you could do a lightnign than breech up to you. The key is to actually do damage and wear out their mind. By alternating the lightning you are doing damage and with choke youll be having them heal. Just stay out of their range and watch for the force feedback icon. soon as you see it its time to sit and wait. Just keep em out of range esp if you have little or no defense. and use stims they save force and you can heal alot better. (1500 heal followed by a 1100 heal is nice)


Just duel with some guildies and figure out how you liketo play. Learn how effective each attack is and when you should or shouldnt use it.




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Strykorr
Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:21 pm
#11

I agree with Super moomoo.



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magneto2
Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:40 pm
#12

i pwn any non-jedi with Mpowers


any jedi pwns me






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procel
Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:46 pm
#13

some great info thx...only prob is , using area intim i get aggroed by every thing in a half mile radius which isnt too helpfull mid fight..is there any word on getting a single intim and an area ala lightning or are we stuck with just area?




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