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Thread: Thinking of dropping Melee DEF line for SAP. Is it worth it???

FowoZolo
Fri Sep 09, 2005 5:09 pm
#1

Ok, I have a good saber for starters. I mostly pvp nowadays and find myself solo often lately. I am asking because I never tried SAP with respec but repeced to current tempplate instead and I do well with it. I would really need to hear some good reviews of sap to change my template.

My template is the new FOTM and I do really like it
MLS
3402 ENH
4000 heal
4040 DEF

I am thinking of dropping the Melee Def line for SAP. I am also thinking
of changing to MENH/MLS 4040 heal later if I ever change again which is another reason for me liking sap now.


So, is my temp the best of the 2? Will sap make a difference??

Message Edited by FowoZolo on 09-22-2005 07:54 PM

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lilceaser
Fri Sep 09, 2005 7:17 pm
#2

i have a similar template...i pretty much own with that template..i'm master sabers/4440defender/3002enhancer/4000heal...valor is good for bh's and ranged peeps shooting you in pvp..but i think you need the melee defense line for sure in pvp..imo...the sap might be good for one on one duels or fights...but i think you should keep your template the way it is....wait for the frs to come around then change it..



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FowoZolo
Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:01 pm
#3



lilceaser wrote:

i have a similar template...i pretty much own with that template..i'm master sabers/4440defender/3002enhancer/4000heal...valor is good for bh's and ranged peeps shooting you in pvp..but i think you need the melee defense line for sure in pvp..imo...the sap might be good for one on one duels or fights...but i think you should keep your template the way it is....wait for the frs to come around then change it..

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Thx for the advice. I would have hard time changing my current templates as I do very well with it but I was just checking for opinions. Thanks for the advice



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FowoZolo
Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:57 pm
#4

any more suggestions??



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TraceAntilles
Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:59 pm
#5

I'm not saying it isn't but when did this become the new FOTM?



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FowoZolo
Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:08 pm
#6

well, it may not be FOTM but its a popular template. When I first got it, I went solely on belief that FA was going to get fixed. It eventually did then others started getting it. It really is a solid template but has some holes.



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Tracce
Fri Sep 23, 2005 1:27 am
#7

I have Healer 0040 in my template, and I would not consider dropping it. It seems to dramaticly slow down action and mind regen, and will put a severe hurt on MCM and CM 4000. I have only lost one 1v1 fight since I picked up MSAB and Healer 0040.



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OB295
Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:45 am
#8



Tracce wrote:
I have Healer 0040 in my template, and I would not consider dropping it. It seems to dramaticly slow down action and mind regen, and will put a severe hurt on MCM and CM 4000. I have only lost one 1v1 fight since I picked up MSAB and Healer 0040.





What is the rest of your template? I have considered also picking up Sap. Currently my temp is 4440Def/MLS/3000Healer/4002Enhancer. I have considered dropping the Ranged Defense line in Defender, but do not want to do it just yet, because I do not want to lose my innate armor. I dunno if Jedi Innate Armor is that big of a deal, but I know the Ranged Defense is pointless because a lightsaber isn't a Ranged Weapon. I didn't even bother with the Valor line either, because at MLS it doesn't matter if you have it or not.

But my question is...will not having the Ranged Defense line in my template make me easier to kill period?



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fiav
Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:42 am
#9










Tracce wrote:
I have Healer 0040 in my template, and I would not consider dropping it. It seems to dramaticly slow down action and mind regen, and will put a severe hurt on MCM and CM 4000. I have only lost one 1v1 fight since I picked up MSAB and Healer 0040.






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KCcrusher
Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:48 am
#10


I would really like some feedback on how good SAP is also. My template feels pretty strong for my play style, but I have some extra points to play with, and am debating on either healer xx4x or xxx4. Mostly I want to round out my temp for BH battles. I have little problem with any of the PvE I do, but took a crushing defeat from a MBH/MCM a month or so ago (lost after a 5-10 min battle), and am looking for ways to strengthen against that attack.


Currently I am:


Mdef, healer 4xxx, enhancer, xxx4, and LS x443. That leaves me with 15 points, and I could make some minor changes to pick up the additional points needed for a full line.


Thinking of:


Healer 4x4x (offense in a BH battle, all types) or healer 4xx4 (defense in a BH battle, but only for CM really), LS x444 (keeping techinques for the ranged attack), enhancer xxx2 (at minimum, xxx4 if I can keep it), and Def 444x at minimum.


Any feedback will be appreciated. I hope this does not qualify as a thread hi-jack. If it does, I will post under a new one.

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FowoZolo
Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:58 pm
#11

NP bud. You are asking the same questions as me basically I wish there were some stats on SAP so we would know exactly how much it effects regen.

I am thinking of getting it because
1) I have 4040 DEF now, VS jedi I am always armorbroke anyway, so not sure how much innate will help over just food

2) To play with MCM bhs. I have not lost in a long time but they last awhile sometime (unless they miss a heal. BHs are tricky about finding ways to get that regen back up faster

3) I have a nice saber and prefer to be offensive.

4) I may just switch to have something to do since loot is crap ingame right now



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MrSemi
Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:08 pm
#12

I'm 0044 Defender but I have force armor.


If I were 4440 defender I wouldn't drop anything for sap.


I'd take 4040 defender over 0040 defender and 0040 healer assuming no force armor.


But then I took 0044 defender over 0040 defender and 0040 healer. However if you're more of a duelist than a pvper sap would be a better choice than valor in my opinion.


Hope this is making sense.


Whoever said the extra block isn't worth the fourth box of defender when you're master saber, you're wrong. Your saber block is twice as effective with Valor. It brings it from 25% block to 50% block.



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FowoZolo
Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:15 pm
#13

grrr. Even their forums are bugged

Message Edited by FowoZolo on 09-23-2005 05:17 PM



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