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Thread: Whats the point of a force bar?

uhhhhh
Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:38 pm
#1

So we have Action Costs, Mind costs, and force costs.(the HAMF bar)

Why even have a force bar at all?

Take away the Action and Mind costs like it was pre-cu or take away the force bar. Non-Jedi have 3 so we should have 2 or 3, not have to worry about HAMF.


Some things just make absolutly no sense to me.



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Arkadya
Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:40 pm
#2

Force bar is here to make yet another way to kill a jedi...
zPYROz
Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:41 pm
#3

/sigh Play your alt if you don't want a force bar.



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WolfeTCK
Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:41 pm
#4

its likely if we didnt have a force bar, we'd be almost impossible to kill, and we all know that jedi must be killable, its non jedi toons that are meant to be almost unkillable



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Corina_Deepstarr
Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:42 pm
#5






uhhhhh wrote:

So we have Action Costs, Mind costs, and force costs.(the HAMF bar)

Why even have a force bar at all?

Take away the Action and Mind costs like it was pre-cu or take away the force bar. Non-Jedi have 3 so we should have 2 or 3, not have to worry about HAMF.


Some things just make absolutly no sense to me.





The force bar is there to further gimp Jedi by making it run out then you become defenseless. If you think about it, it is a Handicap for Non-Jedi. When CU was coming out it was said that regular profs would get a type of bar like our force bar so they could not keep spamming specials....oh well..so much for that load of crap.



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Sidalo
Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:42 pm
#6

We have a short term and a long term inhibitor while normal professions only have a short term inhibitor.


If we were much stronger that scenario might make sense.


They can keep the Action and Mind costs but they should be redcued again, or greatly reduce the Force Costs of some action, or greatly increase the Force Regen capability.


Different solutions, would have to weight them all out to see which one has least impact on everything else.





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yurylightmist
Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:43 pm
#7

its there to gimp and kill us.
Arkadya
Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:43 pm
#8






Corina_Deepstarr wrote:





uhhhhh wrote:

So we have Action Costs, Mind costs, and force costs.(the HAMF bar)

Why even have a force bar at all?

Take away the Action and Mind costs like it was pre-cu or take away the force bar. Non-Jedi have 3 so we should have 2 or 3, not have to worry about HAMF.


Some things just make absolutly no sense to me.





The force bar is there to further gimp Jedi by making it run out then you become defenseless. If you think about it, it is a Handicap for Non-Jedi. When CU was coming out it was said that regular profs would get a type of bar like our force bar so they could not keep spamming specials....oh well..so much for that load of crap.





It's not really a "load of crap", action and mind play that role now... Only Jedi have it all and the worst remain our force bar !
Sidalo
Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:44 pm
#9






WolfeTCK wrote:

its likely if we didnt have a force bar, we'd be almost impossible to kill, and we all know that jedi must be killable, its non jedi toons that are meant to be almost unkillable




I run out of action and or mind much faster than force.


If we had no force bar, and they kept the action and mind costs nothing would change. Mind would still be my limiting factor in a long fight





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Arkadya
Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:45 pm
#10






WolfeTCK wrote:

its likely if we didnt have a force bar, we'd be almost impossible to kill, and we all know that jedi must be killable, its non jedi toons that are meant to be almost unkillable







Since I'm a Jedi I've never died because of an empty force pool... Except in friendly duels and then it was a relief this was over !

Just4MOnths
Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:45 pm
#11

i think..... its for limiting jedi....really.... i got hunted yesterday by MBH/MCM and i had to run like 3 times....to get my force back thanks to the carppy pearls and fc that i have....seriously.. this issue should be fixed ....i just couldnt do enought dam b4 my force bar was burned .....this fight coulded gor forever finally i logg cuz i didnt have enought time to keep playing....today same toon came for me (same temp) another guy.... i had torun once to get my force....on the second round when he catch up with me i killed him thanks a kd bug....and that give me the final blow that i needed
Corina_Deepstarr
Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:49 pm
#12






Arkadya wrote:





Corina_Deepstarr wrote:





uhhhhh wrote:

So we have Action Costs, Mind costs, and force costs.(the HAMF bar)

Why even have a force bar at all?

Take away the Action and Mind costs like it was pre-cu or take away the force bar. Non-Jedi have 3 so we should have 2 or 3, not have to worry about HAMF.


Some things just make absolutly no sense to me.





The force bar is there to further gimp Jedi by making it run out then you become defenseless. If you think about it, it is a Handicap for Non-Jedi. When CU was coming out it was said that regular profs would get a type of bar like our force bar so they could not keep spamming specials....oh well..so much for that load of crap.





It's not really a "load of crap", action and mind play that role now... Only Jedi have it all and the worst remain our force bar !






So far from what I have seen...take the right foods / drinkand a non-jedi elite can pretty much go un-effected. The Devs have so screwed this game up it is un-believable. The thing now is...can it ever be fixed or is this it for swg?


Message Edited by Corina_Deepstarr on 09-21-2005 02:50 PM



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WolfeTCK
Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:49 pm
#13






Sidalo wrote:





WolfeTCK wrote:

its likely if we didnt have a force bar, we'd be almost impossible to kill, and we all know that jedi must be killable, its non jedi toons that are meant to be almost unkillable




I run out of action and or mind much faster than force.


If we had no force bar, and they kept the action and mind costs nothing would change. Mind would still be my limiting factor in a long fight







just imagine if everyone had cloak, and they'd never run outta force then, if we didnt have force bars its likely the more common bh/cm's wouldnt have a huge chance of beating us as we could spam aura and infusion till teh cows came home aslong as we have some food and buffs and could regen our action and mind without concern



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