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Thread: The Devs are right to not listen.
Jedi_Xan wrote:
Go back and look at the forums. Nothing good comes from this forum. All you do is tear them down, criticize them, and demoralize them. I wouldnt listen to you. They shouldnt listen to you.
No more nerfs, no more comments, no more patch notes... just do what it is they want to do, and leave you the hell alone to babble and gripe, and moan and complain. Poor guys busting their asses 80 + hours a week to listen to your crap.
I'll tell you what, why dont one or more of you fix the bugs, and maybe they will hire you. Then you can see the kinda crap you guys put on them.
If so many make bad comments about the Devs, it must be for a reason!
My guess is that the biggest part of the problem other then the direction of the game, is that they are short staffed. Not enough Devs/programers to keep up with all the bugs. So, things go long amounts of time without getting fixed, hence poeple are pizzed.
Jedi_Xan wrote:
Go back and look at the forums. Nothing good comes from this forum. All you do is tear them down, criticize them, and demoralize them. I wouldnt listen to you. They shouldnt listen to you.
No more nerfs, no more comments, no more patch notes... just do what it is they want to do, and leave you the hell alone to babble and gripe, and moan and complain. Poor guys busting their asses 80 + hours a week to listen to your crap.
I'll tell you what, why dont one or more of you fix the bugs, and maybe they will hire you. Then you can see the kinda crap you guys put on them.
Whilst I truly doagree with your sentiment... this isn't a charity - we pay thier wages, you know?
tuffness55 wrote:
crap we put on them? what about the crap they give us. I know they work hard but putting out stuff that isn't finished yet, then getting crap about it doesn't make me feel bad for them
Putting "crap" out before it's ready is soley the fault of the SOE development leadership, not the grunt coders. For example: forcing the release of RotW to coincide with the release of Episode 3 was obviously a decision foisted on the developers from the LucasArts and/or SOE marketing nimrods.
Perhaps the game designers could do with a bit more imagination on some things, but you have to remember: every great idea (whether coming from this forum or from their own minds) must be approved by LA, and sometimes by the OldGreybeard himself. That not only takes time, but most of the ideas get shot down as being against SW canon.
Jedi_Xan wrote:Go back and look at the forums. Nothing good comes from this forum. All you do is tear them down, criticize them, and demoralize them. I wouldnt listen to you. They shouldnt listen to you.No more nerfs, no more comments, no more patch notes... just do what it is they want to do, and leave you the hell alone to babble and gripe, and moan and complain. Poor guys busting their asses 80 + hours a week to listen to your crap.I'll tell you what, why dont one or more of you fix the bugs, and maybe they will hire you. Then you can see the kinda crap you guys put on them.
I agree.
tuffness55 wrote:
crap we put on them? what about the crap they give us. I know they work hard but putting out stuff that isn't finished yet, then getting crap about it doesn't make me feel bad for them
I'll tell you what. Why don't you go to college some 8 years, find a corporation to program for, and come back and apologize for the statement you just made. You are clueless. I know what these guys go through. They have ideas, and ambitions that they cant do, because corporate bigwigs that have other ideas.
Then, on top of all that... they have to stop projects they are working on because the players complain about something miniscule. Shut the hell up already. God knows you will never be happy with anything in this game if you aren't the most uber (not pointed at YOU, by the way, just a general statement). If you get killed, someone must be nerfed because they killed you.
I say Devs, just close the door on the forums, and do what it is you do. Screw PVP, and get the PVE working. PVP will never be balanced, and people will never be happy unless they can always win. /bug it and move on, and if we let the devs alone so they can do their job, they come up with cool stuff, like the last patch notes I was reading, or the new CH revamp.
Devs, just /addignore the SWG forums and get the game fixed. These guys have no idea what they want, or what is good for the game.
Jedi_Xan wrote:Go back and look at the forums. Nothing good comes from this forum. All you do is tear them down, criticize them, and demoralize them. I wouldnt listen to you. They shouldnt listen to you.No more nerfs, no more comments, no more patch notes... just do what it is they want to do, and leave you the hell alone to babble and gripe, and moan and complain. Poor guys busting their asses 80 + hours a week to listen to your crap.I'll tell you what, why dont one or more of you fix the bugs, and maybe they will hire you. Then you can see the kinda crap you guys put on them.
Its NEVER right to not listen to your customer, regardless of what they have to say.
We do tear them down, criticize, and demoralize. But when you truely care about making a great product, the disgruntled are who you listen to. You listen to their concerns and problems and criticizism, and you find ways to improved your product.
What if this forum were all "aww, this game is great"? What would there be to improve upon?
Message Edited by FernGully on 07-29-2005 10:16 AM
Jedi_Xan wrote:
Go back and look at the forums. Nothing good comes from this forum. All you do is tear them down, criticize them, and demoralize them. I wouldnt listen to you. They shouldnt listen to you.
No more nerfs, no more comments, no more patch notes... just do what it is they want to do, and leave you the hell alone to babble and gripe, and moan and complain. Poor guys busting their asses 80 + hours a week to listen to your crap.
I'll tell you what, why dont one or more of you fix the bugs, and maybe they will hire you. Then you can see the kinda crap you guys put on them.
your whining, and off base...take a look at the smuggler forums if you want to see what you describe...you dont like this forum...instead of complaining....here's an idea: GET OUT!
some things do need to be fixed, like cloak...should be only offensive....1 minute cooldown from the time combat ends....patch notes ain't going away...and theyve always done what they want to do. I believe 60 hrs a week is their hardcap on their hours worked, and don't forget, some people like overtime.
Sign me up, I got a opo job right now and would like to supplement my income...and next time, before you make a post like this, think about it...its more hostile and whiney than any post I have seen in quite some time.
I am not being hostile. I am seeing the babble that has been going on, and it's no wonder the devs cant get anything done. They are so busy trying to appease the whining customer base, how can they.
Seeing the CH revamp renewed my faith in the dev team. They need to stop working on PVP. PVP will NEVER be balanced, no matter what they do. There will always be some party this is unhappy.