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Thread: Just when you think we have issues...
Read his second post...it is depressing. Think about that next time you want to blame the correspondent for the state of things. I salute him for stepping down in style, and telling it like it is !!!
Lammergeiger Wrote:
as I mentioned, my term was nearly over. as I retire (and likely leave the game), I'd like to offer some of the reasons I made my decision.
these are reposts from other forums... they've been edited to remove NDA information, and contain only my opinions.
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it represents a break from one post to the next. I hope that these concerns can find some resolution, but they illustrate a trend towards reliance on the CL system that I find disturbing, and they've driven me away from a game I once enjoyed.
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I think my biggest reason for leaving is: the CL system. it is becoming more and more apparent that it is a substitute for good design, and a gate to content. the situation of crafters and entertainers is a dire one... as a BioE, neither crafter nor combatant, it has become an exercise in continuing frustration: CL60 is NOT ENOUGH to 'play' the game anymore, but it is enough to make a dedicated player try... and fail. when I play as a combat toon, I'm just another 'angry bag' at CL80. when I play as a crafter, I'm gated from all content beyond CL1. when I play as the profession I represent, I'm stuck in the middle... ineffective at my role, unable to experience all but the most basic content, and the first one to the cloner over and over again.
it certainly doesn't help that a varied and robust crafting system (BioE cloning) has been gutted and served to the community with un-fixed design flaws and outright bugs, nor that BioE tissues for tailors don't work. that I've been unable to see any issue addressed since June, and that MORE issues have croppped up with regularity and no fixes, does nothing to extend my desire to represent an ailing community.
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this isn't a NEW problem... it's a drift from a working playstyle with some bugs (launch) to an increasingly broken and gated experience (current). the shift has been gradual, but a direct comparison between the first year of the game (indeed, of the game up to the changes instituted with the CURB) and the game now shows very dramatic changes... many for the worse.
I'm sure some of the devs and QA DO play non-combat professions... but I'm just as sure that they don't play them exclusively, nor do they play them to the depth that veteran players do regularly. give ANYONE a mission to 'play a crafter/entertainer' and they'll likely have fun for a while, if only because the experience is so different from the world-seen-by-combat-toons. crafting and entertaining ARE fun... until you've exhausted the working aspects of the professions, and are left with broken code and gated content.
CL gates content. part of this is by design (it was implemented, I hope, to keep players from soloing all content ingame). the unfortunate side-effect (which it seems is becoming more of a 'feature') is that CL overrides tactics, strategy, and player involvement. it prevents players from enjoying the game... a significant 'cost'... while offering better control of balance in the face of exploits, broken code, and power-gaming... a dubious 'benefit'.
I was strongly against the CL system during the CURB, but I gave it a try for nearly six months, hoping to see the benefits it was supposed to offer. instead, I see the game moving more and more towards a CL80-or-bust mentality. I am more strongly opposed to the CL system now than I ever was before.
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creatures used to be more than 'angry bags'.
creatures had resists. creatures had specials. creatures had a 'ferocity rating', an assigned CL (sometimes arbitrary, to be sure, but it worked). creatures had 'personality'.
kreetles, the lowliest of critters, would aggro ANYTHING. no one ever knew why. they just did.
mantigrue screechers, a great source of endorian wooly hide, were terrible foes. I remember an ill-fated (and now famous) trip to endor that ended with a ranger HTFB filled with black-barred hunters. as the BioE in the group, I could make woundpacks... once I had the HAM to hand-sample resources to make them... we all sat in that camp for a LONG time. it was great fun, and it won't ever happen again.
'creature AI' used to be a combination of aggro, CL, ferocity, specials, ranged attack, BAF, stalker... all the information that used to be a part of mob code and /examine information. AI worked. instead of some hodge-podge of 'AI coding' stapled onto an 'angry bag' CL generic_mob_skin_xx, the AI was based on a number of identifiable factors... data that was stripped from mobs with the CURB.
and as true as it is... NO player should ever be able to say "Thank goodness I am not a (insert profession here). Man would this game be limiting." that should be a big red flag to devs and players alike.
Yep, sadly a reflection of where this game is going. I'll be surprised if the post isnt deleted. SOE does not like to hear honesty.
The devs are alienating themselves more and more from their paying customers showing a 'we know better' attitude that people are starting to resent, and not just the odd few. I've played this game for over two years and I am now also at a crossroads seriously contemplating canceling and playing something else. StarWars™ is now the only thing keeping me here, and even that reason is becoming harder and harder to justify as this game slowly goes down the poop shoot.
Maybe soon the devs and SOE will wake up, smell the coffee and start listening to what it's customers want rather than what the THINK we want!
This whole game has issues, and unfortunatly, good people (The Corrs) have to take all the heat for the devs, and alot of people do not understand this.
The Corrs are all good people, its the devs that have let the game degrade into the condition it is in currently.
Death to the Combat Nerf.
Roll back the servers to the Golden Age!
I'd gladly give up Wookie World and whatever piece of trash they are developing now.
AtonuTragona wrote:
Death to the Combat Nerf.
Roll back the servers to the Golden Age!
I'd gladly give up Wookie World and whatever piece of trash they are developing now.
Here Here
It is strange not more have dropped of because of the system.
I don't see any reason to delete that post, it's just a honest opinion of SWG player. It has nothing to do with trolling, offending or anything "illegal" to say simple. There are many different people out there they all have their own opinions.
Calel_Haven wrote:
Yep, sadly a reflection of where this game is going. I'll be surprised if the post isnt deleted. SOE does not like to hear honesty.
The devs are alienating themselves more and more from their paying customers showing a 'we know better' attitude that people are starting to resent, and not just the odd few. I've played this game for over two years and I am now also at a crossroads seriously contemplating canceling and playing something else. StarWars™ is now the only thing keeping me here, and even that reason is becoming harder and harder to justify as this game slowly goes down the poop shoot.
Maybe soon the devs and SOE will wake up, smell the coffee and start listening to what it's customers want rather than what the THINK we want!
lajduke wrote:
This whole game has issues, and unfortunatly, good people (The Corrs) have to take all the heat for the devs, and alot of people do not understand this.
The Corrs are all good people, its the devs that have let the game degrade into the condition it is in currently.
Sadly, all of us are enablers of this poor condition of the game. We continue to subscribe and sometimes even purchase expansions and we're doing it on the basis of the game's lofty potential, not its reality as delivered or likely to be delivered in the near future.
Morwen wrote:
lajduke wrote:
This whole game has issues, and unfortunatly, good people (The Corrs) have to take all the heat for the devs, and alot of people do not understand this.
The Corrs are all good people, its the devs that have let the game degrade into the condition it is in currently.
Sadly, all of us are enablers of this poor condition of the game. We continue to subscribe and sometimes even purchase expansions and we're doing it on the basis of the game's lofty potential, not its reality as delivered or likely to be delivered in the near future.
Or there are people like me who payed for a year sub the day before they put the CU on TC.
lajduke wrote:
Morwen wrote:
lajduke wrote:
This whole game has issues, and unfortunatly, good people (The Corrs) have to take all the heat for the devs, and alot of people do not understand this.
The Corrs are all good people, its the devs that have let the game degrade into the condition it is in currently.
Sadly, all of us are enablers of this poor condition of the game. We continue to subscribe and sometimes even purchase expansions and we're doing it on the basis of the game's lofty potential, not its reality as delivered or likely to be delivered in the near future.
Or there are people like me who payed for a year sub the day before they put the CU on TC.
NEVER GIVE THEM MONEY UP FRONT! That's just asking to be shafted.