Jedi Archive

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Calel_Haven wrote:

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lajduke wrote:

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Morwen wrote:

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lajduke wrote:

This whole game has issues, and unfortunatly, good people (The Corrs) have to take all the heat for the devs, and alot of people do not understand this.

The Corrs are all good people, its the devs that have let the game degrade into the condition it is in currently.

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Sadly, all of us are enablers of this poor condition of the game. We continue to subscribe and sometimes even purchase expansions and we're doing it on the basis of the game's lofty potential, not its reality as delivered or likely to be delivered in the near future.

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Or there are people like me who payed for a year sub the day before they put the CU on TC.

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NEVER GIVE THEM MONEY UP FRONT! That's just asking to be shafted.

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I learned that the hard way.

Pretty much every game that suffered a combat upgrade like we got in this game has caused the game to die.... and its happening for sure slowly but surely its dieing and they just want to squeeze money out of us before they release SWG2....

that is exactly what all corospondants who do not beleive in the cu should do. at least that guy has some real guts and character to step down for those true reasons. any coro who tries to put on a false face and tell us how wonderful this game is post cu should be completely ignored because they dont have our best interests at heart, they just want to appease the soe gods who control this game. you have to remember, we the real life subscribers should be leading this game because its obvious that even the newest star wars fan has more of a concept of what this game should be. so, for the bio engineer corospondant who stepped down, congrats for having courage to throw this mess back into soe's face and walk away from it with the respect of your fellow players. /salute

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KRAKEN666 wrote:
that is exactly what all corospondants who do not beleive in the cu should do. at least that guy has some real guts and character to step down for those true reasons. any coro who tries to put on a false face and tell us how wonderful this game is post cu should be completely ignored because they dont have our best interests at heart, they just want to appease the soe gods who control this game. you have to remember, we the real life subscribers should be leading this game because its obvious that even the newest star wars fan has more of a concept of what this game should be. so, for the bio engineer corospondant who stepped down, congrats for having courage to throw this mess back into soe's face and walk away from it with the respect of your fellow players. /salute

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LOL this is so much junk. basically you are saying if a coro doesnt agree with and see this game the same why you do then they should step down.

cloudwalker, i dont think you are getting what is going on here. would you want a person who isnt going to be truthful with us because of pressure from soe telling them not too? at least the bio engineer coro who is stepping down is doing it forlegitimate reason. they dont agree with what the devs did to this game and they are not going to lie anymore to their fellow players. I would much rather have a coro who at least beleives in something rather than just go with what they are told to think. do you think that to our benifit to have a corospondant who is a soe yes man? The jedi coro before bac stepped down for the exact same reason, they couldnt stand to see what jedi has become, and for that i had the utmost respect for them even though i didnt agree with alot of what they said. All proffesions need corospondants that are willing to do whats right instead of doing what soe tells them is right in this game.

were has bac said he doesnt like the game at the moment. All i see is that you dont like the game and are trying to twist words so you can say other people shouldnt like the game. I and plenty of others still love playing this game and the content it has in it. The vette is still fun if you go with a group, dwb is fun with a group and blackscale compound is fun in a group. Loot may not be great at moment, but the dungeons are still there for people to enjoy as a group.

ToOW is bringing a few more dungeons like this, sorry if i and people like me still enjoy this game but it is for us to decide wether we enjoy it or not. NOT for you to try and say because bac hasnt stepped down he is in the wrong and should because YOU think he doesnt like the game and i think bac is always truthful with us, he tells us what he gets told, not what he thinks we want to here or make things up to satisfy some peoples need to see our corro get banned for chain posting

Message Edited by cloudwalker1 on 10-18-2005 01:04 PM

unfortunatly cloudwalker, the people who actually like the game are the minority. do you think people enjoy coming here and venting or dou think that that they would rather have a game they could enjoy more? everyone posting here has legitimate concerns of where there time and money investment is going. its great that some can enjoy the game now, lord knows soe is going to need them very soon to keep this boat rowing forward, but untill they quit screwing around, changing endlessly, and cutting skills of people who actually deserve to be more powerful becuase of the time invested get used to the discontent.

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Isostran wrote:

I would only say that SOE would like to do away with SWG because LA has a big chunk of rights to it. It would prob be cheaper to scrap it and let LA handle the Dev of the game. But again thats just my opinion. I'm depressed seeing people leave shame on you SOE S H A M E!!!!!

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While SOE are the coders, and to blame for the poor quality of code/quality assurance in this game, the DESIGN blame falls squarely on LucasArts, specifically Julio Torres, who has been behind nearly every negative change to this game in the last year.

Don't blame SOE for everything. The problem with this game is management. It's no surprise that the coders produce poor code, and the QA people pass into live broken crap, when the BIG break is in upper management, those giving the underlings their designs, orders, and instructions.

I really would like to see, at the least, another producer for this game brought into LucasArts. That would be the most constructive thing ever to happen.

Message Edited by wildcat84 on 10-18-2005 09:32 AM

shifting blame doesnt cut it they are both 100 percent responsible for the trash they have published.

LA for choosing soe in the first place,as they have a history of catastrophically bad dev /customer relations,

I'll tell you this for nothing, SWG at the beginning was the best game I ever played. It was totally fresh and had features never before seen. Slowly this game has morphed into an EQ2 / WoW amalgamation. The CL system doesn't fit in with the characters that we have built and play. As much as I love D&D, the idea of class levels are outdated and have been since games like Shadowrun and the original Star Wars:RPG introduced systems based solely on abilities / skills. CL is obsolete.