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Thread: ? Why can't Jedi's use Force Push/Pull things???

Altyrell
Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:06 am
#1

Why can't Jedi's use Force Pull or Force Push??



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DarkShadow1313
Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:09 am
#2

Man i wish we could among a long list of other powers


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GunFu
Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:11 am
#3

Force Berserk would be sweet for dark jedi. Hit force berserk and just start going crazy with the saber.



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VaainEldritch
Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:28 am
#4






Altyrell wrote:

Why can't Jedi's use Force Pull or Force Push??





Powers was supposed to get Force Push, and they even had it working. The problem was they couldn't find a way to implement it that was not open to abuse.



Va'ain

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TO pull a smed. Jeez, those dev's pulled a smed on swg big time

Ulrick
Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:42 am
#5

Outside of weilding a LS, this is probably one of the most often used abilities in the films. This would be a great add for the game if it could be incorporated. Actually I remember well the Jedi Knight series of games where you could pull the weapon out of your opponents hand. Made for action packed PVP in the limited ability of the game at the time.


Also would be fantastic if you got rooted by a BH to "push" them back out of range, or into that lava pit on Mustafar. Now these would be great abilities...might even make me move towards powers




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Ulrick
Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:46 am
#6






VaainEldritch wrote:





Altyrell wrote:

Why can't Jedi's use Force Pull or Force Push??





Powers was supposed to get Force Push, and they even had it working. The problem was they couldn't find a way to implement it that was not open to abuse.




How was it open to abuse?




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Avero - Master Armorsmith - Canceled - 12-17-05
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Altyrell
Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:46 am
#7






Ulrick wrote:

Outside of weilding a LS, this is probably one of the most often used abilities in the films. This would be a great add for the game if it could be incorporated. Actually I remember well the Jedi Knight series of games where you could pull the weapon out of your opponents hand. Made for action packed PVP in the limited ability of the game at the time.


Also would be fantastic if you got rooted by a BH to "push" them back out of range, or into that lava pit on Mustafar. Now these would be great abilities...might even make me move towards powers






hehehehe... that makes me think of the GOOD old saying's: "Payback is a B**ch" & "KHARMA" & "What comes around, GOES around"



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Altyrell
Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:23 pm
#8






Yny wrote:





VaainEldritch wrote:





Altyrell wrote:

Why can't Jedi's use Force Pull or Force Push??





Powers was supposed to get Force Push, and they even had it working. The problem was they couldn't find a way to implement it that was not open to abuse.





Very true. I remember this came up almost 2 years ago. I always thought it should be put in, but I can absolutely see how it would get abused.


You think it's lame when someone breaks stasis using a duel? Imagine if you have someone pushing the Jedi around while rooted by the same method. Or pushing a BH around by that method.


I have to say though, it would take a lot of the problems with Powers mobility away if we had the chance to create the room we need to use our skills.





but simply the Answer to if anyone said that we should be NERFed, if we were given these 2 skills, then the answer would be: We are Jedi's, we are SUPPOSED to Push and Pull things with the FORCE



d Lord Vincent Takaab Blackbird (Altyrell) ~MEOW~.
Altyrell
Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:27 pm
#9

i wonder what other people thing???



d Lord Vincent Takaab Blackbird (Altyrell) ~MEOW~.
Govance
Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:36 pm
#10

and what about rage or dark rage power ? anyone played jedi academy,jedi knight ?? lucas arts games, dark rages gives u alot bonus to dmg but it drains your health.



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Altyrell
Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:07 pm
#11






Govance wrote:

and what about rage or dark rage power ? anyone played jedi academy,jedi knight ?? lucas arts games, dark rages gives u alot bonus to dmg but it drains your health.





I agree, that would be a NICE edition (hopefully they might add that, if/when they bring the NEW FRS System)



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hamhamthe3rd
Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:16 pm
#12






Yny wrote:





VaainEldritch wrote:





Altyrell wrote:

Why can't Jedi's use Force Pull or Force Push??





Powers was supposed to get Force Push, and they even had it working. The problem was they couldn't find a way to implement it that was not open to abuse.





Very true. I remember this came up almost 2 years ago. I always thought it should be put in, but I can absolutely see how it would get abused.


You think it's lame when someone breaks stasis using a duel? Imagine if you have someone pushing the Jedi around while rooted by the same method. Or pushing a BH around by that method.


I have to say though, it would take a lot of the problems with Powers mobility away if we had the chance to create the room we need to use our skills.





force push would basically be knock back and many games have some sort of knock back. you couldnt abuse it since im sure it would have a cooldownthat prevented using it over and over and over...
abbink
Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:19 pm
#13

i dont think SOE has ever seen a Star Wars movie or read a Star Wars book or seen another Star Wars game. Thats why we dont have basic jedi skills like push or pull






Too often players and the devs have a mindset that professions should be balanced with 1 on 1 pvp in mind. This mindset is ruining the game. The benchmark for balance should be determined by the role a profession plays in a group setting. As long as the current mindset continues we will never see uniqueness among the professions, nor will we ever see individuality within a given profession. We will never see the SWG universe expanded as the focus will only ever be balance pass after balance pass after balance pass.


Message Edited by abbink on 07-26-200609:32 AM


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