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Thread: balancing jedi or empowering jedi.

TrogdorrtheBurninator
Sat Oct 22, 2005 5:39 pm
#1

This thread is meant for a /agree or /disagree.


most jedi like myself have noticed the profession becoming "balanced" for pvp with non-jedi classes. but what most jedi haven't mentioned is that some of us feel that if we have to either holo-grind or village quest to unlock jedi, THEN grind 10 times the amount of exp as an elite class, we SHOULD be overpowered not "balanced" the extra work to become jedi is made for several reasons.


1) for the chance to become one of the most favored hero type in any story.

2) to be more powerfull than the average player.

3) to further the content of the game beyond the limits of a standard combat type.


these are just a few of the reasons that the subscribers of SWG have paid and played your game over others. do not begin to think in anyway that the majority of us are here because you are doing anything right. i myself have tolerated your slaughter of the game i love simply because i have no interest in playing in a "goblin and orc" fantasy realm. i do love the Star Wars ideal and wish that SOE carried that same love so they could strive to make a game that reflects it. unfortunately you have come up short.


as the nerfing of jedi continues to make us equivalent to the standard elite classes i see less and less reason for the "cost" of a jedi to be as high as it is.


my thoughts for you are to either re-empower the jedi so that the struggle to become jedi is worth it by rewarding us as such with stronger abilities. OR, to make the path to jedi equal to that of the classes you are "balancing" us to.


TO Empower us:

1) jedi should be strong enough to easily kill a non jedi in a 1v1 combat.

2) jedi should not fear a single bounty hunter. but BH groups should be able to be formed to hunt us and a way for group exp and reward to be split amoung the BH group.


there are more ways to empower us and keep the game playable which i have heard about a possibility including the FRS pulling our faction to be light and dark vice rebel and imperial.


To Balance us:

1) make our exp levels tha same as elites as far as required exp per skill box.

2) take away exp loss for BH deaths

3) make attained exp the same as elite professions.

4) make jedi an instantly trainable class


this will make being a jedi balanced with other classes and jedi will no longer be special. if you want to balance us then do it right, otherwise give us back the power jedi should have.




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smeedii
Sat Oct 22, 2005 5:52 pm
#2



/ Agree with the first part, but...




TrogdorrtheBurninator wrote:

This thread is meant for a /agree or /disagree.


To Balance us:

1) make our exp levels tha same as elites as far as required exp per skill box.

2) take away exp loss for BH deaths

3) make attained exp the same as elite professions.

4) make jedi an instantly trainable class


this will make being a jedi balanced with other classes and jedi will no longer be special. if you want to balance us then do it right, otherwise give us back the power jedi should have.





Its taken me over a year to grind Jedi never respect/afk/macro/made saber tool/afk healed. I will be buggered if I've thrown all that away.



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TrogdorrtheBurninator
Sat Oct 22, 2005 6:00 pm
#3

well that's the same situation im in... but i don't like this half and half crap... they need to either balance us or empower us. it WILL suck to see us balanced and all our hard work wasted, but at least the continued slaughter will end and we can move forward from there



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Vehon
Sat Oct 22, 2005 6:02 pm
#4

Heck take us off the Bh terms forever if you are going to balance us.



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TrogdorrtheBurninator
Sat Oct 22, 2005 6:04 pm
#5

nah i like the BH content... just a cost for it is pointless



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chastity_freakygirl
Sat Oct 22, 2005 6:05 pm
#6


lol ok, well i dont know one jedi thats pleased or ok with what the devs are doing, the devs wont fix it or make it better, as they believe that what they have done is right and thatl put them in a bad light, if TOW is crap, which from the beta it looks like, i am going to cancell my subscription before the gane totally bombs, this is there last chance to make the game better after that joke of an 'upgrade' the cu and the new bh power ups with jedi power downs.



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TrogdorrtheBurninator
Sat Oct 22, 2005 6:08 pm
#7

was that a /agree or /disagree?



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chastity_freakygirl
Sat Oct 22, 2005 6:09 pm
#8

if they empower so we can kil a single bh, /agree, if were "balanced" and remain on the terms, and keep our mid range weapons its /disagree and /cancel_account



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noobslayer21
Sat Oct 22, 2005 7:03 pm
#9

The bh thing doesnt bother me. I dont run I just take the death. Its just like 300k in the hole. !.5 hours in a spin group eats that up at the most. There should be more alpha classes added to the game. Maybe make bh an alpha class.



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Sat Oct 22, 2005 7:13 pm
#10


I mastered 32 professions to unlock jedi pre 9, I would rather have them re-empower jedi, not make it something easily accessable. Heck if you want to argue about it, they already made it easily accessable, some will argure you have to wait 12 weeks. Well it took me 5 months of hard grinding to unlock my jedi, having to wait 12 weeks does not make your grind hard, hardness is the difficulty of obtaining the XP, which is alot easier. Devs need to fix jedi, the great thing it was is currently gone.

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En1Gma
Sat Oct 22, 2005 7:32 pm
#11

I disagree with both. I think the Jedi should be VERY weak. lol, i know Ill get a lot of flames for this. But think about it.


If someone did manage to get themselves to a Padawan, who the hell is going to train them? I know there's an npc but in terms of reality, who is going to train you?? You're on your own. You have no trainer and you have no master.


Even Luke had Yoda to train with. You have no one.


In a world where you are suppose to be extinct, you find yourself lucky enough to harness the force. Who's going to train you?


See my point? Jedi should be weaker if anything





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Spewman
Sat Oct 22, 2005 7:59 pm
#12


They are simply softing up jedi so BH'ers will have a reasonable expectation of killing them on a regular basis.


The second reason is, In order to give us a FRS in the future, theyneed to lower the padawan's abilites to equal other professions. That way they can give the power back to you as you move up the FRS. That will make ppl feel like they are "getting" somewhere and accomplishing things. If padawans ran around dominating most of the game the FRS would be pointless.


The good news is thatall this jedi nerfing means the FRS must be in the works.


SparkyNine
Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:05 pm
#13






En1Gma wrote:

I disagree with both. I think the Jedi should be VERY weak. lol, i know Ill get a lot of flames for this. But think about it.


If someone did manage to get themselves to a Padawan, who the hell is going to train them? I know there's an npc but in terms of reality, who is going to train you?? You're on your own. You have no trainer and you have no master.


Even Luke had Yoda to train with. You have no one.


In a world where you are suppose to be extinct, you find yourself lucky enough to harness the force. Who's going to train you?


See my point? Jedi should be weaker if anything







um. no I don't see your point at all. Are you familiar, even in passing, with the SW universe as put forth by Lucas, et al? Jedi are hardly the bottom of the combat barrel. They may not be the super critters that folks on here would like them to be but it's quite common to see the jedi in the books and movies taking on 3-5 attackers at once.



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