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Thread: How is force cloak being made useless? for real
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JessieJames19
Sun Sep 18, 2005 1:41 pm
#1
Been reading all these post about " force cloak will now be useless"
I know they are adding a snare but if you are cloaked.. who cares?
My healing is weak so i cant really heal others while cloaked.. nor have i tried really while cloaked. For a month i had 0 healer in my template and it was just fine when i was cloaked. Run off and /sit and then get back into the heat of things,. or use stims
Since i only use cloak for PVP.. is there something pve wise i am missing?
So What am i missing? How is cloak being made useless?
KaliMaul
Sun Sep 18, 2005 1:46 pm
#2
JessieJames19 wrote:Been reading all these post about " force cloak will now be useless"I know they are adding a snare but if you are cloaked.. who cares?My healing is weak so i cant really heal others while cloaked.. nor have i tried really while cloaked. For a month i had 0 healer in my template and it was just fine when i was cloaked. Run off and /sit and then get back into the heat of things,. or use stimsSince i only use cloak for PVP.. is there something pve wise i am missing?So What am i missing? How is cloak being made useless?
It's useless because with the snare a BH can just follow you anywhere and use aoe attacks to kill you.
isix
Sun Sep 18, 2005 1:49 pm
#3
QFE
not to mention not being able to do say ... regen, heal, run away
hamhamthe3rd
Sun Sep 18, 2005 1:50 pm
#4
KaliMaul wrote:
JessieJames19 wrote:
Been reading all these post about " force cloak will now be useless"
I know they are adding a snare but if you are cloaked.. who cares?
My healing is weak so i cant really heal others while cloaked.. nor have i tried really while cloaked. For a month i had 0 healer in my template and it was just fine when i was cloaked. Run off and /sit and then get back into the heat of things,. or use stims
Since i only use cloak for PVP.. is there something pve wise i am missing?
So What am i missing? How is cloak being made useless?
It's useless because with the snare a BH can just follow you anywhere and use aoe attacks to kill you.
haha, so they will get a way to target you now? if i remember right, and i know i do,you cant use area attacks at the ground so how would they harm you unless you like to stand cloaked near npcs/creatures? if you do that then you deserve death seriously.
KaliMaul
Sun Sep 18, 2005 1:54 pm
#5
hamhamthe3rd wrote:
KaliMaul wrote:
JessieJames19 wrote:
Been reading all these post about " force cloak will now be useless"I know they are adding a snare but if you are cloaked.. who cares?My healing is weak so i cant really heal others while cloaked.. nor have i tried really while cloaked. For a month i had 0 healer in my template and it was just fine when i was cloaked. Run off and /sit and then get back into the heat of things,. or use stimsSince i only use cloak for PVP.. is there something pve wise i am missing?So What am i missing? How is cloak being made useless?
It's useless because with the snare a BH can just follow you anywhere and use aoe attacks to kill you.
haha, so they will get a way to target you now? if i remember right, and i know i do, you cant use area attacks at the ground so how would they harm you unless you like to stand cloaked near npcs/creatures? if you do that then you deserve death seriously.
They can use aoe attacks on their friends. And at most places you'll find NPCs or mobs in a 100-200m circle around you. rofl dude, you suck
JessieJames19
Sun Sep 18, 2005 1:58 pm
#6
eh..
not worried about bounty hunters.
and there is not one cloaked jedi i know who doesnt have fr 2.
3-0-0-0- enhancer makes sense, yet, with cloak and lacking better defenses FR 2 just seems to clock better.
So snared + FR 2 = FR 1 speed wise . Not an issue
Message Edited by JessieJames19 on 09-18-2005 04:59 PM
KaliMaul
Sun Sep 18, 2005 1:59 pm
#7
JessieJames19 wrote:
eh..not worried about bounty hunters.and there is not one cloaked jedi i know who doesnt have fr 2.3-0-0-0- enhancer makes sense, yet, with cloak and lacking better defenses FR 2 just seems to clock better.So snared + FR 2 = FR 1 speed wise . Not an issueMessage Edited by JessieJames19 on 09-18-2005 04:59 PM
Maybe I want to enjoy a jedi skill without having to grind for other skills to be able to actually use it.
hamhamthe3rd
Sun Sep 18, 2005 2:01 pm
#8
KaliMaul wrote:
hamhamthe3rd wrote:
KaliMaul wrote:
JessieJames19 wrote:
Been reading all these post about " force cloak will now be useless"
I know they are adding a snare but if you are cloaked.. who cares?
My healing is weak so i cant really heal others while cloaked.. nor have i tried really while cloaked. For a month i had 0 healer in my template and it was just fine when i was cloaked. Run off and /sit and then get back into the heat of things,. or use stims
Since i only use cloak for PVP.. is there something pve wise i am missing?
So What am i missing? How is cloak being made useless?
It's useless because with the snare a BH can just follow you anywhere and use aoe attacks to kill you.
haha, so they will get a way to target you now? if i remember right, and i know i do, you cant use area attacks at the ground so how would they harm you unless you like to stand cloaked near npcs/creatures? if you do that then you deserve death seriously.
They can use aoe attacks on their friends. And at most places you'll find NPCs or mobs in a 100-200m circle around you. rofl dude, you suck
yep and they can phone lord vader for help but you know what? its not likely to happen and even if it does that doesnt change the fact it is easily avoidable.
Drazharr
Sun Sep 18, 2005 2:03 pm
#9
JessieJames19 wrote:
eh..
not worried about bounty hunters.
and there is not one cloaked jedi i know who doesnt have fr 2.
3-0-0-0- enhancer makes sense, yet, with cloak and lacking better defenses FR 2 just seems to clock better.
So snared + FR 2 = FR 1 speed wise . Not an issue
Message Edited by JessieJames19 on 09-18-2005 04:59 PM
MLS/MP/4040 Healer here. I don't have Force Run.
If you don't know any Jedi without Force Run, you don't know enough Jedi.![]()
chewboywa
Sun Sep 18, 2005 2:08 pm
#10
JessieJames19 wrote:
eh..not worried about bounty hunters.and there is not one cloaked jedi i know who doesnt have fr 2.3-0-0-0- enhancer makes sense, yet, with cloak and lacking better defenses FR 2 just seems to clock better.So snared + FR 2 = FR 1 speed wise . Not an issueMessage Edited by JessieJames19 on 09-18-2005 04:59 PM
Lots of things wrong with this post, have you seen a snared forcerunner? Probably not, snare will slow down any runner to almost walking speed, and 3000 Enhancer does not contain FR2 that is in 4000 Enhancer.
And to the other posters that advocate these changes, you must not understand how it feels to be a full fledged force wielder, against other Jedi you are practically weak offensively so I rely more on PvP against bounty hunters than finding other Jedi to fight these days. Adding a snare to cloak is going to be ridiculous that if I see 5 guys show up and try to gank me, I try and cloak in the middle of Theed then I will not be able to get far enough away to prevent my force from being completely drained due to the mass NPCs and players not to mention the players will be able to follow and AOE attack.
JessieJames19
Sun Sep 18, 2005 2:10 pm
#13
chewboywa wrote:
JessieJames19 wrote:
eh..
not worried about bounty hunters.
and there is not one cloaked jedi i know who doesnt have fr 2.
3-0-0-0- enhancer makes sense, yet, with cloak and lacking better defenses FR 2 just seems to clock better.
So snared + FR 2 = FR 1 speed wise . Not an issue
Message Edited by JessieJames19 on 09-18-2005 04:59 PM
Lots of things wrong with this post, have you seen a snared forcerunner? Probably not, snare will slow down any runner to almost walking speed, and 3000 Enhancer does not contain FR2 that is in 4000 Enhancer.
And to the other posters that advocate these changes, you must not understand how it feels to be a full fledged force wielder, against other Jedi you are practically weak offensively so I rely more on PvP against bounty hunters than finding other Jedi to fight these days. Adding a snare to cloak is going to be ridiculous that if I see 5 guys show up and try to gank me, I try and cloak in the middle of Theed then I will not be able to get far enough away to prevent my force from being completely drained due to the mass NPCs and players not to mention the players will be able to follow and AOE attack.
I do have force run, and i have been snared. so yes i have seen one
you mis read, i stated that 3-0-0-0 seems more practical. but most have 4-0-0-0-aka FR 2
# i play 2 jedi, one is a cloak dabbled another is master powers
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