Jedi Archive
Thread: Cloak may be nerfed according to Helios
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Grunzer
Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:12 pm
#1
Helios had this to say:
"Here are some rules common to all types of buffs that remove you from sight (including Force Cloak):
1. Taking any offensive action reveals you instantly (currently the only exception is the Rifleman's ability Conceal Shot).
2. Interacting with some objects in the world instantly reveals you (could be switches, terminals, containers, etc)
3. Some commands cannot be executed and require you to reveal yourself before executing the command
4. All of these buffs can be "toggled off" at any time you wish to become view-able by others
5. Some non-combat actions can also reveal you (like healing for instance)
6. You are afflicted with a movement snare when you are stealthy (rooted when just camouflaged)"
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Message Edited by Grunzer on 09-17-2005 10:13 AM
Opie76
Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:16 pm
#2
So healing will break cloak. No force meditate while cloaked. I like !!!
Ho'mer
IBeDaMaster
Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:37 pm
#3
Wouldnt mind cloak being moved to master, but then mls should get something, maybe another advanced hit besides adv. saber throw and derverish. Right now the only things i see bad about cloak are the exploits(attacking while cloaked), people pvp healing, and running through things like the vette untouched. Why should it be moved to master anyways?
Star-Crusher
Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:41 pm
#4
I guess the reason to move it to master would be to stop all the crying? Look at all the BHs (and others) complaining about cloak. Most cloakers aren't master force wielders. Most people pick up cloak 'just' to run and hide. As a master force wielder, I use it for recon, offense, and defense.
I honestly thought they'd move it before 'changing the rules'. Oh well.
Tanilith
Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:41 pm
#5
I"m just really sad to see yet another fun and useful jedi skill get nerfed.
I don't even have cloak, but I don't want to see it placed on these rules. This is complete stupidity, no one was even really complaining all that loudly about it . . . chr1st . .
Grunzer
Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:42 pm
#7
IBeDaMaster wrote:
Wouldnt mind cloak being moved to master, but then mls should get something, maybe another advanced hit besides adv. saber throw and derverish. Right now the only things i see bad about cloak are the exploits(attacking while cloaked), people pvp healing, and running through things like the vette untouched. Why should it be moved to master anyways?
I guess I just sort of feel like, if they go much further with the nerfing, The Jedi will be killing themselves every time they use a special or one of their abilities. I mean, it gets to a certain point that you just gotta give a Jedi a gun and let him shoot himself in the head. It'd be quicker and less painful that way.
I realize that Cloak is being used in a lot of ways that it shouldn't be. I'm just not so sure that adding a snare to yet another Jedi Ability is the way to go, but I guess it is the "easiest" way to fix the current exploits that all the kiddy Jedi use.
Message Edited by Grunzer on 09-16-2005 09:44 PM
Warryyr
Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:55 pm
#8
There's nothing wrong with Cloak. It's lame they're screwing with it.
It's not doing anything to negatively impact the game, why are they even wasting their time and marginalizing a cool skill?
lunatin
Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:58 pm
#9
Ok your saying cloak is being used in way that it should not be...It is a skill that we can learn how every we choice to use it is up to us not how everyone else thinks we should....I'm sorry but im sick of BH hunting me when the weapon they have hit twice as hard as mine...We are supposed to be the elite of the elite instead where they bottom feeders getting beat down everytime we turn around...If i choice to cloak and run from every BH it is my choice...When they make it a equal fight then i will stay and fight...Until then cya
Namen_Xenomi
Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:58 pm
#10
I'll take a snare for cloak IF and ONLY IF I also get a move that needs to be executed from stealth that deals massive dmg. Similar to the snare a rogue gets, as well as his backstab.
TheRealMopy
Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:59 pm
#11
Advanced Cloak in the master powers box, gotta be.
Then again, if you were in SOE's shoes, would you rather
a) Nerf an ability a little to the minor annoyance of many, and a major annoyance to a few master powers users.
b) Move cloak or an advanced version to the master powers box, and have every Jedi with cloak demand a respec, and other templates demanding more in their master boxes.
I think it's immediately obvious which one gives them the least grief. Kinda like a politician who won't put the driving age up by any real amounts. They know it'll save many lives, but they also know they'll get whined at more and won't get into office again.
Best comparison I can think of. We can always hope.
emovamalla
Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:10 pm
#12
Wow, I actually didn't believe this post until I actually did a dev tracker check.
MPowers needs HELP, not nerfs. This is beyond discouraging for me.
IBeDaMaster
Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:17 pm
#13
/cry, its no fair though, master powers gets so many things, lol, j/k. If people choose to use their skill points for cloak, i think they should be able to use it, to get away and to defend them selves. But, until they fix pearl drops, we gotta watch it, master powers is better than mls with the ways crystals are tuning, come on jedi, pull together stop calling for nerfs, more professions hate us cuz they think we call the most nerfs, lets not give them more fuel for hating.
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