Jedi Archive
Thread: Cloak may be nerfed according to Helios
Karthrag-Inak
Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:24 pm
#14
yeah, where is our correspondant on this one? i'd like to see his input.
daetalus
Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:32 pm
#15
Grunzer wrote:
Helios had this to say:
"Here are some rules common to all types of buffs that remove you from sight (including Force Cloak):
1. Taking any offensive action reveals you instantly (currently the only exception is the Rifleman's ability Conceal Shot).
2. Interacting with some objects in the world instantly reveals you (could be switches, terminals, containers, etc)
3. Some commands cannot be executed and require you to reveal yourself before executing the command
4. All of these buffs can be "toggled off" at any time you wish to become view-able by others
5. Some non-combat actions can also reveal you (like healing for instance)
6. You are afflicted with a movement snare when you are stealthy (rooted when just camouflaged)"
Message Edited by Grunzer on 09-16-200509:28 PM
Where did you see this, a link would be helpful.
Strykorr
Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:32 pm
#16
this is lame, just move cloak to master powers and leave it alone. I am tired of SWG nerfing stuff.
Message Edited by Strykorr on 09-16-2005 10:33 PM
Uneshoof
Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:39 pm
#17
I am a Master Powers jedi.
I don't get this. So, in what aspect will cloak be used then? I'm thinking I'll never use it again and just take it out of my toolbar.
Mythrindir
Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:41 pm
#18
all i'd like to see with cloak is make it unuseable with a tef if you've attacked the target back. i wouldnt mind the targets that cloak right when you attack since they're low lvl or something, but nothings more irritating than fighting a jedi for 20 minutes+just to get rooted and have them run away cloaked saying "pwnt"
cmreeves
Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:45 pm
#19
Another GAY NERF for Master Powers users again. While you are at it just remove Jedi, how about that. You Dev's have already ruined the game enough.
Star-Crusher
Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:46 pm
#20
So, if they root and cloak, is that all that different than stasis and force run 3? Not all that different to me it would seem. Like many, I have a jedi (master powers) and a BH. I've played the cloak game from both ends. I accept it and move on. There are ways to prevent cloak and sometimes you just can't..move on.
DeadMoonRising
Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:47 pm
#21
hmm... more nerfs just means WoW will be getting more ppl and Sony will be losing more...
Jedi=supposed be supreme protectors, destroyers in the sith case, of the universe. So lets make them lose all their cool and unique skills...
sigh... you guys can pretend not to care when ppl leave the game but when you ask "Wheres all the PVP?" "wheres all the rebs?" "what happened to all the imps"... Well heres your answer. Were supposed to be getting more content rather then losing everything that ppl start to find as a coping mechanism to the bad updates
Darka-ce
Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:48 pm
#22
Well,
This would be gamebreaking for me. Rather sick and tired of BH crying to nerf Jedi skills instead of them actually taking the time to learn how to defeat them. If this goes thru as described, for me it will be the last straw. As a MPOwers, I don't loot camp, I don't run inside and disarm base timers. I use cloak as my only defense amd method for escape. Bad enough that most powers attacks uses a zip bar AND self roots, now I must also endure a snare and no healing ability while cloaked? Sorry SOE, been around since Pub 6. If this hits, I am cancelling.
This would be gamebreaking for me. Rather sick and tired of BH crying to nerf Jedi skills instead of them actually taking the time to learn how to defeat them. If this goes thru as described, for me it will be the last straw. As a MPOwers, I don't loot camp, I don't run inside and disarm base timers. I use cloak as my only defense amd method for escape. Bad enough that most powers attacks uses a zip bar AND self roots, now I must also endure a snare and no healing ability while cloaked? Sorry SOE, been around since Pub 6. If this hits, I am cancelling.
Star-Crusher
Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:50 pm
#23
Well, there's a problem with a 'supreme' anything as far as classes/professions go in MMOs. You just can't make them work. There must be balance. Balance was lost at some point around the introduction of the village. If any Jedi thinks he should be more powerful than anything out there, think again. There are FAR too many of us for that to ever work now.
Uneshoof
Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:53 pm
#24
So let me get this right....
If we decide to cloak we have to stand still? No moving?
MX13
Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:05 pm
#25
Grunzer wrote:
Helios had this to say:
"Here are some rules common to all types of buffs that remove you from sight (including Force Cloak):
1. Taking any offensive action reveals you instantly (currently the only exception is the Rifleman's ability Conceal Shot).
2. Interacting with some objects in the world instantly reveals you (could be switches, terminals, containers, etc)
3. Some commands cannot be executed and require you to reveal yourself before executing the command
4. All of these buffs can be "toggled off" at any time you wish to become view-able by others
5. Some non-combat actions can also reveal you (like healing for instance)
6. You are afflicted with a movement snare when you are stealthy (rooted when just camouflaged)"
Message Edited by Grunzer on 09-16-2005 09:28 PM
NO.
You think you had problems with the XP nerf?
DeadMoonRising
Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:26 pm
#26
Well all I have left to say about nerfs is that they drive away ppl who are fine with the game to appeal to people who cant help but whine at everything that they have a disadvantage against...
Take a gander at Planetside. I loved that game the first few months it was out. But that game was nerfed beyond playability. All I can do it hope that the same doesnt happen here for the numbers are thinned as it is.
I agree that people shouldnt be able to heal others/attack while cloaked, unless they got a "cover shot" type skill like riflemen.
I dont agree that cloaked jedi should be snared... takes the fun out of the skill... Go ahead and move it to the Master Box, I'm master powers and wouldnt mind one bit.
Jedi have been nerfed enough... Take a look at combat medics for a change
Message Edited by DeadMoonRising on 09-16-2005 11:28 PM