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Thread: Pre Publish 9 Jedi opinion on Patch 24

Ebei
Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:01 pm
#1


I don't really post here very often, actually vary rarely. I just couldn't take it anymore, I have been scouring the forums and even did a post search on our jedi correspondent and apparently he isn't addressing this issue. What gives with our profession anymore? We used to be the goal that people had when they first started this game, and I'm talking about launch and not just recently. Jedi was the top job, we were supposed to be the best of the best.


I'm a Knight, have been since the FRS, I'm also a pre publish 9 jedi. I know my template very very well. Even that was no match for 3, yes count them 3, bounty hunters today. One had the new squadleader buffs and i couldn't damage him, not even with force speed+armor break+705damage saber. Other two were combat medics and I swear they were healing once a second or close to it and low low mind/action use. Finally the third got me. The only reason he got me was cause of snare. From what I read I was under the impression that when snared it takes us down to half our movement speed, but it can be negated by other enhancements, meaning that if snared andI force runI should still be able to move faster. HEH like that worked.


Why has this not been addressed by our correspondent? Isn't his job to discuss our issues and take it back to the development team, or is TOW so important that they don't want to fix existing bugs? Funny but this reminds me of right before the JTL expansion, tons of bugs with no fixes and still a new release.


This is severely going to cause a lot of unrest with a ton of veteran players, I hope that SOE keeps in mind that they are not the only game out there to play and soon more and more players are going to leave to play elsewhere. One of the things that will kill this game is word of mouth, how many times have u been at the game store and ask the guy next to you if he had tried playing a certain game and if it was worth the money? Well what if that person said nah u don't want that game, too many bugs, no customer support/feedback, and the end game isn't really worth it, would you still buy it? Doubt it.


Please listen to your clients, because honestly were your employers also, our monthly payments are your paychecks.


These are my opinion's but judging from other forum posts I'm feeling like I'm not alone.






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NerfMurderer
Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:04 pm
#2

don't get on the boards



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agkBenny
Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:06 pm
#3

im right there with ya man, im no pre pub 9 jedi but am a pre cu jedi. I remember how great this profession was and how fun it was now its hardly even fun anymore, and our correspondent isnt doing a damn thing about it.



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Ebei
Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:06 pm
#4

See that's the funny thing, I never did anything to get on the boards. And even though I did wind up being DB'ed by a BH I bet I am still termed.






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larryburns
Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:12 pm
#6


Ebei wrote:
I don't really post here very often, actually vary rarely. I just couldn't take it anymore, I have been scouring the forums and even did a post search on our jedi correspondent and apparently he isn't addressing this issue. What gives with our profession anymore? We used to be the goal that people had when they first started this game, and I'm talking about launch and not just recently. Jedi was the top job, we were supposed to be the best of the best.
I'm a Knight, have been since the FRS, I'm also a pre publish 9 jedi. I know my template very very well. Even that was no match for 3, yes count them 3, bounty hunters today. One had the new squadleader buffs and i couldn't damage him, not even with force speed+armor break+705damage saber. Other two were combat medics and I swear they were healing once a second or close to it and low low mind/action use. Finally the third got me. The only reason he got me was cause of snare. From what I read I was under the impression that when snared it takes us down to half our movement speed, but it can be negated by other enhancements, meaning that if snared and I force run I should still be able to move faster. HEH like that worked.
Why has this not been addressed by our correspondent? Isn't his job to discuss our issues and take it back to the development team, or is TOW so important that they don't want to fix existing bugs? Funny but this reminds me of right before the JTL expansion, tons of bugs with no fixes and still a new release.
This is severely going to cause a lot of unrest with a ton of veteran players, I hope that SOE keeps in mind that they are not the only game out there to play and soon more and more players are going to leave to play elsewhere. One of the things that will kill this game is word of mouth, how many times have u been at the game store and ask the guy next to you if he had tried playing a certain game and if it was worth the money? Well what if that person said nah u don't want that game, too many bugs, no customer support/feedback, and the end game isn't really worth it, would you still buy it? Doubt it.
Please listen to your clients, because honestly were your employers also, our monthly payments are your paychecks.
These are my opinion's but judging from other forum posts I'm feeling like I'm not alone.





Ok
1. I seriously am under the impression the devs are trying to drop the numbers of players in this game to a point where either they can A. legally cancel or b. make different choices.
2. I don't think the devs do care about anyone's opinions unless it's a massive whine from one board. I mean do you really think anyone truly cares about your opinion at a store? they say they do with a smile, but when all is said and done your still dropping money into their pockets sometimes for a bad product.
3. the jedi correspondant has probably 0 contact with the devs because jedi is a "special" profession and needs to sit in the corner with a dunce cap on.
thats all understand that and never worry about complaining again. It's not worth it. Just cancel subscription or just be like some who log on and say "meh" then go and log back off after saying hi to some people.

Want to know my opinion for jedi? probably not but here goes
1. frs outside of gcw
2. merge all jedi profs to one like pre pub 9 (cuts on diversity, but stops the infighting)
3. Make jedi extremely powerful, but at the cost of a blue glow system like songouki proposed.
4. allow more hunters to hunt jedi at once

Message Edited by larryburns on
5. Bring back saber tef, but instead of factional, a general all around tef to keep jedi who are either solo or grouped on low profile in public areas, or high if your into some action. Example, you are in eisley force heal and are attacked by 30+ people. You are with 3 other jedi of the same belief (light dark grey etc), and you are grouped and do forceheal, your group is attacked by 30+ people. Anyone not grouped and not jedi is tef to the jedi including same faction jedi so that swarming doesn't occur.

Message Edited by larryburns on 10-20-2005 12:18 AM

cahn-a-licious
Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:14 pm
#7






NerfMurderer wrote:
don't get on the boards





heed your own extreme wisdom....troll elsewhere and do not get on these boards again



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I am a SOE customer. Now, if they would only treat me like one...
i used to be 4 accts out of 450k active accts
then 2 accts out of 250k
then 1 out of 200k
now 0 of 175k as of dec 25th....
i am a soe shareholder and do know how many active accts there are.
acmtalk
Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:15 pm
#8

I see 2 sides of it....


1: Its kind unfair for the work that jedi put into the game.


2: its good for the game overal, Now jedi Wont be showing off at starport, Jedi will actually fear Bounty Hunters(as it should be)... Oh well, with all the Cry, it wont be long till they Nerf SL.





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Goomesh
Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:15 pm
#9

Being a pre 9 Jedi, you should understand better than anyone what "stay off the terms means".



  • Do you not remember the days of hiding the fact you were a Jedi?

  • Solo hunting in the corners ofDathomir and Endor?

  • Not logging your Jedi for days to make sure you were gone from the terms?

  • Logging someone's BH to check the terms for your name before you went hunting?

Yes we are weak now and its solely because everyone has a Jedi, we aren't the rare breed of the past but instead are more common than crafters. In a system where there are this many Alpha class players, there is no choice but to make them weaker. Yes it sux, I agree 110% but it has to be expected.





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smallspider
Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:15 pm
#10

Whats happening is that there are too many jedi... so they bringing them down to same lvl as rest.


What i think is coming up is the frs with limited places to advance... which will have some powerfull jedi but not many.


Ebei
Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:15 pm
#11

Wasn't meant to be a hateful or trashing post, I meant it to be an honest post. The next patch that I have heard of is supposed to be the ranger patch and with it comes the ability to uncloak cloaked jedi. Im afraid that the game that I love is being changed in a way that the player client base doesn't agree with and if you doubt my opinion then just troll the forums for a bit. The Cons outweighed Pros by far, either that or those who actually like this patch just aren't posting.






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acmtalk
Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:16 pm
#12






Goomesh wrote:

Being a pre 9 Jedi, you should understand better than anyone what "stay off the terms means".



  • Do you not remember the days of hiding the fact you were a Jedi?

  • Solo hunting in the corners ofDathomir and Endor?

  • Not logging your Jedi for days to make sure you were gone from the terms?

  • Logging someone's BH to check the terms for your name before you went hunting?

Yes we are weak now and its solely because everyone has a Jedi, we aren't the rare breed of the past but instead are more common than crafters. In a system where there are this many Alpha class players, there is no choice but to make them weaker. Yes it sux, I agree 110% but it has to be expected.







OMG!! Agree 100%.



Swg ...........................$50
JTL/ROTW .............................$25
Obi-wan trials............ $30
Monthly FEE ...............$14.99 x 30+ months x 3 accounts
SWG VETERAN ......... Priceless (too bad SOE doesnt realize that)
Acmtalk - IRG -Co Leader Dark Jedi Sith - Storm Trooper Forever!

cahn-a-licious
Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:22 pm
#13






Goomesh wrote:

Being a pre 9 Jedi, you should understand better than anyone what "stay off the terms means".



  • Do you not remember the days of hiding the fact you were a Jedi?

  • Solo hunting in the corners ofDathomir and Endor?

  • Not logging your Jedi for days to make sure you were gone from the terms?

  • Logging someone's BH to check the terms for your name before you went hunting?

Yes we are weak now and its solely because everyone has a Jedi, we aren't the rare breed of the past but instead are more common than crafters. In a system where there are this many Alpha class players, there is no choice but to make them weaker. Yes it sux, I agree 110% but it has to be expected.







not when the whole damn genre was centered around this prof being the strongest in the galaxy......period. i am a pre 9 jedi and want what was promised 2 years ago....that we would be rewarded for our time and effort. we went from being 10 times stronger to now less than half as strong as some templates that take literally 3 days max to grind out. takes 15.2 mil xp to get fr3 which is 152mil reg xp only to be negated by a novice rifle skill taking only 510k xp to get.....real fair and balanced that is.



Keed-Jedi
Cahn-not
I am a SOE customer. Now, if they would only treat me like one...
i used to be 4 accts out of 450k active accts
then 2 accts out of 250k
then 1 out of 200k
now 0 of 175k as of dec 25th....
i am a soe shareholder and do know how many active accts there are.
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