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Thread: Pre Publish 9 Jedi opinion on Patch 24

ShannonKnight
Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:24 pm
#14

Only that 99.999% of the contend available includes killing NPC's :-/ So if you want to play your Jedi there is not much left to don't stay off the terms.



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grayoberon
Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:27 pm
#15

"everyone has a Jedi, we aren't the rare breed of the past but instead are more common than crafters. ..."
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Of course we're more common than crafters. Crafting used to be fun, pre-cu. The simplification of the crafting system, lack of diversification, and ongoing failure to curb cross-server lot trading has dumbed the crafting system down to the point where it's not enjoyable.

Kind of like what they are doing to jedi, now that I think about it. How fun will it be to spend most pvp battles waiting for snare to wear off so we can hopefully dodge the next one, while getting hammered from sl-buffed untouchables 80m away? I keep waiting for "balance" to be implemented in a way where it isn't a euphemism for "cornhole jedi."



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Ghert
Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:32 pm
#16

Major problem in Publish 24



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DoreanGrae
Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:32 pm
#17






Goomesh wrote:

Being a pre 9 Jedi, you should understand better than anyone what "stay off the terms means".



  • Do you not remember the days of hiding the fact you were a Jedi?

  • Solo hunting in the corners ofDathomir and Endor?

  • Not logging your Jedi for days to make sure you were gone from the terms?

  • Logging someone's BH to check the terms for your name before you went hunting?

Yes we are weak now and its solely because everyone has a Jedi, we aren't the rare breed of the past but instead are more common than crafters. In a system where there are this many Alpha class players, there is no choice but to make them weaker. Yes it sux, I agree 110% but it has to be expected.








I unlocked 2 weeks ago, so I cannot relate to all of those points. I do, however, do my best to conceal the fact that I am a Jedi now. Two weeks into it, some of my friends in-game still don't know that I am. I slipped once and forgot to change from my Padawan Robes before entering a city, but quickly got out of said city and changed clothes.


People complain that no Jedi actually act like Jedi, but it's kinda ironic because there ARE Jedi out there who act like Jedi in the game, it's just that part of doing so requires hiding the fact that you swing a glow-stick of death, so the general population doesn't know who we are.





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Goomesh
Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:35 pm
#18






cahn-a-licious wrote:





Goomesh wrote:

Being a pre 9 Jedi, you should understand better than anyone what "stay off the terms means".



  • Do you not remember the days of hiding the fact you were a Jedi?

  • Solo hunting in the corners ofDathomir and Endor?

  • Not logging your Jedi for days to make sure you were gone from the terms?

  • Logging someone's BH to check the terms for your name before you went hunting?

Yes we are weak now and its solely because everyone has a Jedi, we aren't the rare breed of the past but instead are more common than crafters. In a system where there are this many Alpha class players, there is no choice but to make them weaker. Yes it sux, I agree 110% but it has to be expected.







not when the whole damn genre was centered around this prof being the strongest in the galaxy......period. i am a pre 9 jedi and want what was promised 2 years ago....that we would be rewarded for our time and effort. we went from being 10 times stronger to now less than half as strong as some templates that take literally 3 days max to grind out. takes 15.2 mil xp to get fr3 which is 152mil reg xp only to be negated by a novice rifle skill taking only 510k xp to get.....real fair and balanced that is.






When there were very few Jedi, you could slaughter a group of 20 without any trouble. Now that everyone is a Jedi andit can be done in a very short time period, you can be killed by one player...there is a connection there and while it does suck, it is reasonable to expect. Pre 9 Jedi do suffer because of the time it took to acheive a full template but that isn't the case any more....the reward for a quick grind is far less than what it was when the grind was difficult. I never said I agree with it, only that it is to be expected.


I do think its crap to whine about getting killed by a BH though....stay off the terms.





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crunchmalla
Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:36 pm
#19

typical whiny -edit- j3di.


suck up the nerf alpha class wannabe.





Ebei wrote:


I don't really post here very often, actually vary rarely. I just couldn't take it anymore, I have been scouring the forums and even did a post search on our jedi correspondent and apparently he isn't addressing this issue. What gives with our profession anymore? We used to be the goal that people had when they first started this game, and I'm talking about launch and not just recently. Jedi was the top job, we were supposed to be the best of the best.


I'm a Knight, have been since the FRS, I'm also a pre publish 9 jedi. I know my template very very well. Even that was no match for 3, yes count them 3, bounty hunters today. One had the new squadleader buffs and i couldn't damage him, not even with force speed+armor break+705damage saber. Other two were combat medics and I swear they were healing once a second or close to it and low low mind/action use. Finally the third got me. The only reason he got me was cause of snare. From what I read I was under the impression that when snared it takes us down to half our movement speed, but it can be negated by other enhancements, meaning that if snared andI force runI should still be able to move faster. HEH like that worked.


Why has this not been addressed by our correspondent? Isn't his job to discuss our issues and take it back to the development team, or is TOW so important that they don't want to fix existing bugs? Funny but this reminds me of right before the JTL expansion, tons of bugs with no fixes and still a new release.


This is severely going to cause a lot of unrest with a ton of veteran players, I hope that SOE keeps in mind that they are not the only game out there to play and soon more and more players are going to leave to play elsewhere. One of the things that will kill this game is word of mouth, how many times have u been at the game store and ask the guy next to you if he had tried playing a certain game and if it was worth the money? Well what if that person said nah u don't want that game, too many bugs, no customer support/feedback, and the end game isn't really worth it, would you still buy it? Doubt it.


Please listen to your clients, because honestly were your employers also, our monthly payments are your paychecks.


These are my opinion's but judging from other forum posts I'm feeling like I'm not alone.









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RajeRivers
Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:36 pm
#20

I was going to start my own thread on this but ran across this one first. I'm not pre-pub 9, but I did 14 professions during the hologrind and had all but my last tree unlocked and filled. With that said, I've been jedi long enough to, up until tonight, have fought exactly 60 BH's with only 3 losses. Tonight I got attacked by number 61, and while he definitely had loads of talent, he wasn't anything I haven't dispatched in 10 to 15 seconds before. He wasn't exploiting as far as I could see, and perhaps all the others like him that have been coming for me just didn't have that much skill. Either way the fight lasted a good 20 to 25 minutes with him finally incapping me. I'm not upset, I'm full temp jedi (not meant as a flame) with nothing better to do than to get vis and fight BH's. And I'm not going to whine and ask for a nerf on the snare stack he was using and all that stuff, but I do think that as a profession we have been chopped down to entirely too weak. I know it's probably because of our sheer numbers, but even with that I see no reason for us to be weaker than an elite class. I suppose I'll be playing my alt a lot more from now on, at least until I get some practice in to deal with the "new" changes. Again, this was not meant as any kind of flame or nerfcall, as I don't support either one, unless I"m flaming a nerfcaller, I think that is TOTALLY okay.




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RajeRivers
Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:40 pm
#21


And just to cover my own butt, I'm usually the first one to say "if you don't like being hunted, stay off the terms" I enjoy being hunted, and I'm full temp. I'm not angry at losing, because it happens. I suppose I'm a little disgruntled about the changes implemented today, not that I would change anything, but I would like to see at least some kind of trump card for these new stacks that we can use implemented at the same time.




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Ebei
Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:41 pm
#22






RajeRivers wrote:


And just to cover my own butt, I'm usually the first one to say "if you don't like being hunted, stay off the terms" I enjoy being hunted, and I'm full temp. I'm not angry at losing, because it happens. I suppose I'm a little disgruntled about the changes implemented today, not that I would change anything, but I would like to see at least some kind of trump card for these new stacks that we can use implemented at the same time.





Would be nice, but as it stands even FR3 doesnt do anygood to counter a snare






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Orthell
Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:44 pm
#23



NerfMurderer wrote:
don't get on the boards





That is always the DUMBEST response. The only thing a Jedi can do off the terminals is grind and hunt creatures. We can't do anything with content, no quests, NOTHING.







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ImperialObserver101
Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:45 pm
#24

lol the game sux since the cu came out so yeh



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Orthell
Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:48 pm
#25



crunchmalla wrote:

typical whiny -edit- j3di.

suck up the nerf alpha class wannabe.



Why is there ALWAYS some noob making really useless mindless posts like these in every thread?







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RajeRivers
Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:51 pm
#26


Crunchmalla wrote:


typical whiny -edit- j3di.


suck up the nerf alpha class wannabe.






Thanks for trolling


And before you point your finger at me and accuse me of the same, I've never trolled the BH forums, even though my alt is MBH and I have full rights to. Go back to your forum and share your joygasms of momentary triumph with the other BH's. That's just a polite request of course, and not meant as a flame, but it will more than likely be taken out of context and you'll try to start a pi$$ing contest with me, but it's not going to work. I've dropped my two cents in my own forum and you've dropped your two cents in OUR forum and no doubtedly your own...again, thanks for trolling.





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Accepting war from ALL rebels.
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