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Megasuperb wrote:
4440

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agree also

Message Edited by Grunzer on 10-08-2005 12:51 AM

4440

Go for vallor it is great if you are mls you will hardly get hit with a ranged weapon

I have 4440, but have been thinking of switching to 4044 for valor. Since I have MLS, MLS+Valor would basically take away ranged damage against me... What would suck is losing 12 points of innate armor (from 54 to 42), but due to the sliding scale of mitigation, that isn't that much mitigation loss, especially when you consider that with saberblock+valor, you should be taking less damage.

I've not made the switch yet mainly because I've been waiting on FRS to see what it will be, as I think 4440 is better against Jedi, whereas 4044 would not be as good (though it would make a MLS virtually invincible against BH's).

4440

With 4044 you can use up extra force and decrease your damage output so you can block a few extra shots from a ranged opponent.

With 4440 you take less damage from all comers for free.

Message Edited by EAB on 10-08-2005 02:03 PM

444x def

or

4x4x def and x4xx enh

4x44 def is stupid u can eat vayerbok for same effect. plus vayerbok lasts 7-15 mins while valor lasts 40-50 secs and costs force everytime applied. and block only works on ranged only. it adds chance of blockin thats it go wit 444x def and eats vayerbok. thats like 4444 def ne ways

not much to say people had said it allready why so i say 4-4-4-0

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Grunzer wrote:

Throwing the ranged part of it out of the equation for the moment, Which is more beneficial. Improved Valor or the Jedi Innate armor you get from the ranged-defense line?

I guess I should indeed add that I would have MLS.

Message Edited by Grunzer on 10-08-2005 12:51 AM

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If you read the stickied post here from the Chef forum and their extensive work on melee vs. ranged defense (defense is not VS but based on the weapon you are holding), you'll find that for now the ranged defense line of defender does nothing for you. I would go 4044 and soak up the extra LS block until the DEVs get around to fixing melee/ranged defense.

Edit:
Just read further down the post... if you can find a steady supply of vayerbok (which I have never seen), then 4440 Def for the inate armor makes more sense.

Message Edited by Ka-oan on 10-08-2005 05:56 PM

4440 = More innate armor... damage reduction with no force cost.

4044 = Damage reduction with the use of force. Valor reduces your opponent's ability to hit you. Has the better "fun factor" as you block more shots.

I'd go with the innate armor and 4440.

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Ka-oan wrote:

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Grunzer wrote:

Throwing the ranged part of it out of the equation for the moment, Which is more beneficial. Improved Valor or the Jedi Innate armor you get from the ranged-defense line?

I guess I should indeed add that I would have MLS.

Message Edited by Grunzer on 10-08-2005 12:51 AM

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If you read the stickied post here from the Chef forum and their extensive work on melee vs. ranged defense (defense is not VS but based on the weapon you are holding), you'll find that for now the ranged defense line of defender does nothing for you. I would go 4044 and soak up the extra LS block until the DEVs get around to fixing melee/ranged defense.

Edit:
Just read further down the post... if you can find a steady supply of vayerbok (which I have never seen), then 4440 Def for the inate armor makes more sense.

Message Edited by Ka-oan on 10-08-2005 05:56 PM

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Yep, just bought some crates of that stuff. Vayerbock+MLS gives me a 50 block, which is less than MLS+Valor, but costs no force, plus I keep the innate armor for better mitigation... Going to put it to test in the DWB tonight, I'll report back. I like the idea of passive defense (well, I DO run a infuse/aura macro for PvE) which is why I went 4440 in the first place.

Message Edited by wildcat84 on 10-08-2005 06:41 PM