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Thread: Force Crystal...tested

skitz1369
Sat Oct 01, 2005 6:25 pm
#1

Went up against a BH today tryed the mind +900 Focus Crystal...Said i feel infused with the force yada yada ...There are many posts here saying that it works like a Holocron effect for your mind bar... TOTALLY FALSE! Now if anyone else has input on what exactly they are used for,for now lets help the younger jedi not waste money or time to get it. Cause of right now its worthless in my eyes...



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Ruler-Jimbo
Sat Oct 01, 2005 6:36 pm
#2

well...like its title...+900 mind crystal...



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Ruler-Jimbo
Sat Oct 01, 2005 6:37 pm
#3

gives you +900 mind...


like the +2000 health one...it gives you +2000 health





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skitz1369
Sat Oct 01, 2005 6:40 pm
#4

k that would be cool and all ... if the the mind bar had actually a number like 1000/1200.. its got a percentage... so does that mean 900% ? yea dotn think so ... still looking for an official answer on this one



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Narut0
Sat Oct 01, 2005 6:52 pm
#5

just makes your mind pool bigger but seen as its mesured as 100% it will still read 100% after buff so its kinda lame tbh.,



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skitz1369
Sat Oct 01, 2005 7:27 pm
#6

ok so if this is true when u use the crystal when ur just standing still for say... ur mind bar should jump a little and u should have to fill it up the rest of the way by regen... if thats not the case (which i will try when i have another use)... then its broken ...gotta be



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The_Strider_Family
Sat Oct 01, 2005 8:39 pm
#7

Actually that is not a good test of it either.


A good test would be to get your mind down to about 50%... use the crystal and see what the percent says. Theoretically if you have 3000 mind, then when you are at 50% your mind would be 1500/3000.


Now when you use the crystal your mind will either be 1500/3900 or be 2400/3900 (depending on whether or not the 900 you added has to be regen'ed or if it is already there). You do the math on the new percentages but it should be close to one of the two.





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BlazeHoliday
Sun Oct 02, 2005 1:08 am
#8

mind regan, not mind.. jack



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DMANMAX
Sun Oct 02, 2005 1:28 am
#9

I think it adds +900 to the mind. But the mind pool is a percent. and attacks and heals use a percent of that mind, not a specific number.


1900 = 1000 mind (for example)

DeeckTator
Sun Oct 02, 2005 1:30 am
#10

+900 max mind, doesn't instantly regen 900 mind...



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HardwiredXMan
Sun Oct 02, 2005 12:20 pm
#11






The_Strider_Family wrote:

Actually that is not a good test of it either.


A good test would be to get your mind down to about 50%... use the crystal and see what the percent says. Theoretically if you have 3000 mind, then when you are at 50% your mind would be 1500/3000.


Now when you use the crystal your mind will either be 1500/3900 or be 2400/3900 (depending on whether or not the 900 you added has to be regen'ed or if it is already there). You do the math on the new percentages but it should be close to one of the two.







That would seem to be a good way to test it,but alsoif the mind crystals gives both 900 to the max mind pool and also fills up the current pool with an additional 900, 1500/3000 mind pool would become 2400/3900 mind pool. However, if this were the case, then the percentage should jump to around 63 - 64%.
Either way we should see some change.


Another way to test it is to get down to zero mind (easy enough ), then time how long it takes to regen to 100%. Then use a mind crystal and do the same thing again. Both times should be way different providing the crystal don't increase regen at all. If not, then it should take longer to regen the mind when under the influence of the mind crystal than when not under it's influence.


I would try both test myself, but I got 2 more days for my crystals to recharge....
Minoch
Sun Oct 02, 2005 12:49 pm
#12

I have already tested this crystal in several ways and found there to be absolutely no benefit. Our correspondent has posted in another thread (no link handy) that it acts as a mind 'heal' but my tests of shown this to be false as well. All tests were done on different days to ensure that no previous mind buff was applied. No response from the devs or our correspondent on these test results that I am aware of:


- Used in an 'idle' state. No combat, full health/action/mind. Dueled a friend and tested to see if percent of mind used on advanced force heals were lower than before the crystal was used. No change in amount of mind used.


- Tested during a duel when mind was about half. No effect on mind 'total' (i.e. no heal at all) and no noticeable effect on mind regen.


- In an idle state, I stacked Avoid Incaps to eat up all of my mind and timed the mind recharge without food or other regen buffs. Did the same after popping the mind buff crystal. No difference.


So again I ask, what is the benefit of this? These go for millions and I fail to see why.






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Minoch
Sun Oct 02, 2005 4:01 pm
#13






BlazeHoliday wrote:
mind regan, not mind.. jack






Nope. There was zero difference in letting an empty mind recharge before and after popping a crystal. If additional mind was bestowed by the crystal, it didn't register either (i.e. no mind added when down to half, or empty upon use).




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