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Thread: [Being Jedi Statement]: Power for Penalty vs Playing an Exile

MsNiL
Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:06 am
#1



I will probably get flamed for this, but whatever... It's perfectly fine to me if you disagree.

Jedi was sold out to fill a contentless void.

The "luxury product" was made cheaper when the market lost interest for the main product.
Pandoras box is opened, and Jedi will never be as powerful as they once where.


This is difficult to accept for some people who create a new post about it every day.
* Bring back pre-cu (becouse we where powerful then)
* Bring back pre-9 (becouse we where powerful then)
* Add more risk so we may have more power.
* Remove all Jedi who are * (* = Not my kind)
* Remove all Jedi who are not * (* = My kind)
* I grinded alot so I deserve power
* I am a Jedi, naturally I should be more powerful
etc... etc... etc...

Ofcourse we will see another post about this tomorrow. Or ten. It will never stop as long as there's nostalgic oldtimers around I guess, but more and more realise every day that pandoras box is open. There's no way or form that Jedi can go back to what they once where.


I would like to state the following, even if it just doesnt register in some heads:
I never became a Jedi to be powerful.


I became a Jedi with the intention of playing a Jedi, an exile, a refugee, with everything that means. A Jedi during the Rebellion Era are not soldiers, they arent even close to the few Masters who appear in the movies. At best we are untrained forcedabblers and refugees. If I am x1.0 next to a Rifleman MASTER, I am ok with it. I have a Lightsaber as a sign of my dedication to the game, that's everything I need in terms of "reward". I am interested about seeking out the mysterious force, not the next template for power. I am ready to take on the challenge of "staying hidden", not the challenge of pwning the next BH. As long as I am at least equal to non-Jedi I am fine, and I feel it's perfectly canon to be like that.


SWG dont need alphaclasses.

I earn nothing by proving my 1337 skillz in a computer game. I prove myself by going to work every day and earn my paybill. If I needed it, I want to be admitted by my skills/knowledge, not whatever profession/class I play in game.

But now I simply want a fun game to play. I simply want Jedi to be just as fun and entertaining as it was to seek out my first harvested hide, or work on earning that first composite armor. The game was fun and exciting back then, as where Kashyyyk and Mustafar.

But Jedi remains left out in all this. Playing a Jedi is not fun and exciting, becouse we have nothing to do. We are at the end of the trip, on the final chapter. There's no future once you unlocked your template. All our content are "good pearls" and some cloak from Mustafar while non-Jedi have several quests to earn unique weapons/armor, or loot that can improve old ones.

So what I want is not power, I want access to content. I want customizeable Lightsabers with cool crystals, custom powercells, custom emitters, custom lenses etc. I want exceptional holocrons with hidden knowledge. I want lootable forcepowers, or unlockable forcepowers. I want nice looking robes that can be customized. It doesnt matter if the end product is something with equal power to your average profession, as long as I feel my Jedi, my lightsaber and my robe is unique and different. My creation. Same power, but yet unlike everything else. That's my reward.

And I want a visibility system that is fun to play. I want a great advanced system in which the art of staying hidden is promoted. The one who stay hidden the longest are the best Jedi (at least the surviving ones who are most likely to inherit the Jedi council when the war is over). Being on the terminals should be very deadly and should be considered "worst case scenario".

Staying off the terminals need to be FUN and challenging.

I want sliceable bh terminals. I want to be able to cover my tracks. To dodge bh droids. I want to be able to change our names and our appearence. I want to be able to spread false rumours to cover our tracks. I want to be able to establish my hidden sanctum. I want to have danger sense that keep me warned when something is about to happen. I want to be able to fool the weakminded who try to hunt me down.


The time of seeing Jedi as a powerful soldier have come to an end.
I have accepted it. It's just a question about where we will go now.

My wish for the future is a fun game about playing Jedi as a refugee, hunted by the empire, just like Jedi should have been from the beginning. If I am permaovert to Dark Jedi I am perfectly fine, but if I want to be a soldier I have about 10 non-Jedi professions to choose from, and a BH event for a properly played Jedi should be a rare event.

Message Edited by MsNiL on 11-02-2005 03:51 PM



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For 3 years I have tried to find excuses to stay in game but only the expansions offered me what I subscribed for in the first place: A multiplayer Star Wars pve experience with friends around the globe. I found friends but with almost no addition of pve content they dropped out one by one. Now it's my turn.
Samoflan
Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:24 am
#2

A jedi who understands..

The grind is a attempt to make them rare... Its not a meaning to have more power.

I play smuggler not for power, but for the roll they have in the Star Wars Universe. Keep it diverse.

If I had the option to grind smuggler 100x to be as powerful as a jedi. Would that be fair?




Janet - Elder Smuggler
Sparkalot
Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:31 am
#3

Spoken like a true Jedi I must say.


/sign





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ValinDalsace
Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:35 am
#4

you sir are the type of jedi i respect, the rest just deserve to die.



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haizenagant
Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:35 am
#5

I just want the FRS, its the only thing on my christmas list



SWG


Not thatimpressive to look at


not half as impressive as it looks


AndrewAzzameen
Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:38 am
#6

Hmm seeing all this agreement I feel I must say I disagree with some parts of your post..


Are you saying that you accept jedi being not stonger or rarer than any regular combat prof? So if we would get a sanctuary or I dunno what you would be happy and put up with having nothing to do, having low risk with low reward, and with all the bugs and issues around today?





- I support keeping & balancing the original Pre-CU combat system
- I support not buying ToOW...and I was right about it
- I support anyone who stands against the implementation of the NGE
- I support the firing of Julio Torres....out of a cannon....into the sun. QFE-SkyDiverIdaho
JaKasKahn
Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:41 am
#7

/kowtow



This is exactly the way I intend to play once I unlock. If even one of the things you mentioned as a


change came about it would be great.




SWG=BETA
gr8whitehope
Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:42 am
#8

"Spoken like a true Jedi"


I couldnt agree any more than what has already been said. You have completely hit the nail on the head.


/salute




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Margantuacca
Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:47 am
#9

Well said. It's not about being l33t, it's about being playable and getting cool and useful skills.


I think thewayfor us being more useful/playable would be to give us more total force/better force regeneration/remove the forcebar.


I think we are a great profession right now. We are just gimped with our force bar for PvE, and there are some useless/nerfed skills at the master levels that I feel should be looked at. Other than that I am happy.
GuyWithGuns
Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:49 am
#10

I have been mulling over something great to write the past couple of days... I didn't know what but I wanted to write something fun, clever, insightful... After all, I'm an English Teacher IRL... But, you beat me to it... I want power, but I want to be hidden. I want jedi but I want to cherish it not boast...



You written well... You should be admired and listened to.







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I miss "my game."
LintonLisa
Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:49 am
#11


/sign


Of course SOE will just bring a PvP FRS back eventually, and it will be meaningless PvPing in order to gain more power in PvPing... am I the only one who sees no point in that?


Message Edited by LintonLisa on 11-02-2005 02:53 PM





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SoloBacca1
Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:49 am
#12

Hello MsNil,

Good Post, I mean personaly I became Jedi to be one of those... that is SPECIAL... I want to be as strong as people around me, but yet have something THEY dont have... I deserve to get my Issue's, Bug's, fixed! Its only my right to, as for they have a risk of being a Jedi... Bounty Hunter's... Remove them and then take the time you wish to fix my issues I dont care after then...




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StreetwalkerXXL
Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:52 am
#13

I bow to you MsNil. A true Jedi you are.
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