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Early in SWG's conception there was the idea that jedi could not clone (perma-death).
Why would the Empire allow masses of jedis to clone when the Imperial Policy dictates the extinction of the jedi? Sounds like a contradiction. All jedi clone data would be deleted.

Since non-cloning was associated with perma-death it was thrown out at the same time as perma death. I suggest we introduce the non-cloning status, but not perma-death. This means that Jedis will not be able to clone from cloning facilities (NPC or PC city based), instead they can spawn at any of the force shrines on the planet. Instead of Insurance terminals, there could be some holocron by the shrine which asks if you would like your status recorded (insured). Jedi would also suffer wound damage as if they didn't clone.

This idea would make sense plot-wise and would be a good mechanism for balancing jedi with the other professions without nerfing a jedi's ability.
This would also help make Jedi the elite class it was envisioned to be. Instead of just giving elite skills, it would be suited for those with paitence and maturity.

PS I wanted to post this idea in the jedi forums, to see the jedi populations opinion on the matter and possible compromises/edits this community can offer. It may seem radical, but remember the game started with perma-death which is far more radical. Jedi's isn't just another profession, it takes time and paitience to earn. So why should it be played like some other common profession? If this idea was going to be introduced Live, then it would be included with the FRS Release.

Message Edited by Mortanos on 11-01-2005 11:54 AM

With any added risks or annoyances for jedi, i want more power, clone at a force shrine? ok, il take my 85% saberblock back, skill loss? ok il take my unresisted damage back and so on.

Or they could fix the game ?

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EcKoVX9 wrote:

You want us to not be able to clone.. so when we die you can camp our bodies.... no sorry bro try again.... how about nerfing heals like they nerf jedi. Start with that when i jedi can take 3 Bh's 3 vs 1 or the tef system comes back maybe you idea can come into perspective

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remember you can choose the force shrine to spawn from.

plus there would be no additional skill loss in this system (just from BH kills) , and it would be added with the FRS so the jedi get some content at the same time.

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Mortanos wrote:

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EcKoVX9 wrote:

You want us to not be able to clone.. so when we die you can camp our bodies.... no sorry bro try again.... how about nerfing heals like they nerf jedi. Start with that when i jedi can take 3 Bh's 3 vs 1 or the tef system comes back maybe you idea can come into perspective

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remember you can choose the force shrine to spawn from.

plus there would be no additional skill loss in this system (just from BH kills) , and it would be added with the FRS so the jedi get some content at the same time.

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Would need force shrines added to mustafar and kashyyyk

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ChefRubio wrote:

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Mortanos wrote:

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EcKoVX9 wrote:

You want us to not be able to clone.. so when we die you can camp our bodies.... no sorry bro try again.... how about nerfing heals like they nerf jedi. Start with that when i jedi can take 3 Bh's 3 vs 1 or the tef system comes back maybe you idea can come into perspective

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remember you can choose the force shrine to spawn from.

plus there would be no additional skill loss in this system (just from BH kills) , and it would be added with the FRS so the jedi get some content at the same time.

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Would need force shrines added to mustafar and kashyyyk

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yea good point lol.

but that's easy to do, just as long as it's not forgotten about before publish

the shrines shouldn't be right by the starport tho.

I like the idea...

Perhaps you could extend it to bringing up a map, kinda liek the starship terminal map, so you could pick your location easier, so you could be more stratigic on where you cloned from the shrine as well...

I like the idea.. A+

or you could just look at the wp given when the clone tab comes up and open the map and figure out where it is yourself like we've always done.

I actually like this idea. Resurection at a Force Shrine makes alot more sense than cloning.

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ChefRubio wrote:
or you could just look at the wp given when the clone tab comes up and open the map and figure out where it is yourself like we've always done.

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I do that currently and have charts on sheets around my desk for it.

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GoldnGT wrote:

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ChefRubio wrote:
or you could just look at the wp given when the clone tab comes up and open the map and figure out where it is yourself like we've always done.

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I do that currently and have charts on sheets around my desk for it.

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ummmm wow...