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Thread: 0004 Defender, 0040 Enhancer, 0004 Healer & Total Heal vs Snare
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MsNiL
Thu Oct 13, 2005 5:45 pm
#1
0004 Defender: "Jedi State Resistance"
0040 Enhancer "Force Resist States"
0004 Healer "Heal States"
Master Healer "Total Heal"
Master Healer "Total Heal"
That's four abilities that have been broken since the CU. Each one by description should counter snare, but none of them does.
Instead we get a new kind of food.
Wouldnt it be appriopiate to have theese fixed, along with "Stabilizers", instead of what they did?
Message Edited by MsNiL on 10-15-2005 12:32 AM
TT1
Thu Oct 13, 2005 5:47 pm
#2
MsNiL wrote:
0004 Defender: "Jedi State Resistance"
0040 Enhancer "Force Resist States"
0004 Healer "Heal States"
Master Healer "Total Heal"
That's four abilities that have been broken since the CU. Each one by description should counter snare, but none of them does.
Thought?
You are right, also why doesn't Master Healer ahve a type of raise? Master Docs and MCM have it then why not a Mhealer at the veryleast?
RebelArchAngel
Thu Oct 13, 2005 5:48 pm
#3
oh oh oh, and def x4xx, since, as far as i know, fro mwat ive heard ranged def only works if your holding a ranged weap... sorry if i missed something but this was the answer i got when i asked the question, so dont quote me.. sorry if its wrong
RebelArchAngel
Thu Oct 13, 2005 5:49 pm
#4
TT1 wrote:
MsNiL wrote:
0004 Defender: "Jedi State Resistance"
0040 Enhancer "Force Resist States"
0004 Healer "Heal States"
Master Healer "Total Heal"
That's four abilities that have been broken since the CU. Each one by description should counter snare, but none of them does.
Thought?
You are right, also why doesn't Master Healer ahve a type of raise? Master Docs and MCM have it then why not a Mhealer at the veryleast?
yea, they get to stand there and just rez someone with a beam of light.... yet us jedi cant use the force... if u think about it, only master healer should have a rez, a bit unfair, but true when ya think bout it
Skwall
Thu Oct 13, 2005 6:32 pm
#5
thoughts? rofl,the devsdon't want to know half of our thoughts....
Defender is useless, Force run is useless (box is only good for root now)
I really wouldn't mind taking foods in the middle of battle if they'd only go through, but that thanks to game lag, I'm stuck hitting my toolbar multiple times before I ever consume my synthestake or my ruby biel, or my moun gold....etc....
My main complaint w/ pub 24 is that they don't have their priorities straight. What benefit or balance is there in half of those changes? Those resources could be in other areas of the game, instead they waste time on crap that doesn't need to be changed.
What a flippin' waste of time and money.
ViciousTongue
Thu Oct 13, 2005 6:34 pm
#6
I think why bother getting any defense skills? Just load up on the offense and hope to god that you can wax BH's before they snare/root/etc and walk 60 meters away and win.
acmtalk
Thu Oct 13, 2005 6:52 pm
#7
ViciousTongue wrote:
I think why bother getting any defense skills? Just load up on the offense and hope to god that you can wax BH's before they snare/root/etc and walk 60 meters away and win.
well, BH is not a Problem at All(at least for me) But what concerns me are Jedi vs Jedi. 85% of the PVP'ers in this game are jedi(not countting BH's), And with 80%+ of Jedi with Imp aura, Powers vs jedi = waste of the time.. Then They nerf our Only get away move(cloak).. What is next? nerf Force run? Oh! wait!, They did it, Now snare makes it usselles...
Message Edited by acmtalk on 10-13-2005 09:53 PM
Epak
Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:06 pm
#8
it would be nice to get a dev/corro response to this since it isn't even really clear if root/snare/daze are considered "states" by the game mechanics.
Even if root/snare/daze are not considered states, all those skills are still not doing anything against ALL of the skills/abilities added with the Combat Upgrade (armor break, shock, sap, elec drain, thyroid rupture, etc....)
I guess the next question is are those considered buffs/debuffs, hence all the "state resist" skills you mentioned actually should be "state and debuff resists"
?
Even if root/snare/daze are not considered states, all those skills are still not doing anything against ALL of the skills/abilities added with the Combat Upgrade (armor break, shock, sap, elec drain, thyroid rupture, etc....)
I guess the next question is are those considered buffs/debuffs, hence all the "state resist" skills you mentioned actually should be "state and debuff resists"
?
Message Edited by Epak on 10-13-2005 07:09 PM
TraceAntilles
Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:09 pm
#9
I read that they plan on making force run unusable with just a simple snare. Forgive me for thinking thats what Root was meant for, why in the HELL do they have to add the ability to snare?
Liani
Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:36 pm
#11
MsNiL wrote:
0004 Defender: "Jedi State Resistance"
0040 Enhancer "Force Resist States"
0004 Healer "Heal States"
Master Healer "Total Heal"
That's four abilities that have been broken since the CU. Each one by description should counter snare, but none of them does.
Instead we get a new kind of food.
Wouldnt it be appriopiate to have theese fixed, along with "Stabilizers", instead of what they did?
Message Edited by MsNiL on 10-15-2005 12:32 AM
Nice Nil....you nailed this perfectly.
Fix our broke stuff and we'll be fine. No need for a new soft drink to add to my already overloaded tool bar.
MoJawK
Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:37 pm
#12
MsNiL wrote:
0004 Defender: "Jedi State Resistance"0040 Enhancer "Force Resist States"0004 Healer "Heal States"
Master Healer "Total Heal"That's four abilities that have been broken since the CU. Each one by description should counter snare, but none of them does.Instead we get a new kind of food.Wouldnt it be appriopiate to have theese fixed, along with "Stabilizers", instead of what they did?Message Edited by MsNiL on 10-15-2005 12:32 AM
States = Stun, Blind, Dizzy, Intimate
DeathIage
Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:53 pm
#13
MoJawK wrote:
MsNiL wrote:
0004 Defender: "Jedi State Resistance"
0040 Enhancer "Force Resist States"
0004 Healer "Heal States"
Master Healer "Total Heal"
That's four abilities that have been broken since the CU. Each one by description should counter snare, but none of them does.
Instead we get a new kind of food.
Wouldnt it be appriopiate to have theese fixed, along with "Stabilizers", instead of what they did?
Message Edited by MsNiL on 10-15-2005 12:32 AM
States = Stun, Blind, Dizzy, Intimate
right, kd is not a state and neither are roots or snares...end of story
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