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MLS MENH def 3xxx healer 2xxx

screw aura for iniate armor

first choice seams the worst

i had take 2 or 3 both are good

from what ive seen, the problem with m.ls/m.enh templates is the fact that you cant get imp aura, i tested it with a few m.enh friends with no imp aura and my bh using his 679 - 1357 bowcaster hits them for around 900 with critical shot and 1700 with sniper shot.

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MsNiL wrote:

We are trying to determine a good addition to MLS and MEnh. The subject in nature do not have the best Lightsaber (452 max, 24fc)

We have 3 ideas:

MLS/MEnh/4004 Healer

This offers cures for Poison, Intimidate and Stun. The rest is fairly useless though. Since she have Force Resist Poison and can probably run away from any BH this might not be much of use.

MLS/MEnh/4040 Healer

Force Sap used to be awesome, but with her Lightsaber she wont be able to defeat a BH even if they are sapped and on a spicedowner. Sap Just got nerfed alot.

MLS/MEnh/3000 Healer/0020 Defender

+10 Innate armor, +285 melee defense, +285 ranged defense, +45 Force Defense, with the drawback of 500 lesser heals (might be replaced by stims?) and the forcecost for Force Aura.

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Hi MsNil,

I would go either for Healer 4040 or healer 3000 Defender 0020.

First template adds states and poison cleaning for sure, but in my experience not many BHs have intimidate, and poison / diseaseare not the biggest damage dealing DOT.

Second one adds Sap, and as you said it was great, and always helps in my opinion.

About the last one, it adds more defense, but she'll lose advanced heals, which can be useful vs BHs or in normal PvP / PvE. I know I add a template without Adv Force Heal and really missed it.

In my opinion, since her Saber is not exceptionnal, in case she meet a BH (that's the main problem here I think), she won't do enough damage to kill the BH quickly - if she manage to, sometimes can be tricky cause some BH really know how to play - so she will have to rely on her force pool during enough time to either deplete the BH mind poolor kill the BH if he makes a mistake and let himself incap. Of course, she can always run if needed.

In conclusion, both last template would be good, my preference would go to Healer 4040 cause I just don't like missing Adv Force Heal, but Force aura and the extra defense may help taking less damage and so compensate this loss.

My cents, hopes this help.

Thats a good template, MLS, Menhancer, but choose Healer 4400 instead cause there are no fire defenses in your template with 4004 and fire dots are the chief and primary way BH's win nowadays.

I used to complian about MCMs until I got fire extinguish, now its bye bye BH everytime, they can't win without that fire dot.

BHs with Doc 4004 are another story. Still can't always win against those buffs and heals, but at least I never lose either.

Message Edited by TraceAntilles on 09-23-2005 07:15 AM

Healer 4400 looks interesting. With Enhancer already offering state, poison and disease resists (and absorption if they do stick) the ability to heal them isn't that tempting. Being able to put out fire and heal wounds is much more attractive.

Currently I'm MLS/MEnh/Pow0400/NHe/NDef but I have little faith in the cloak bugs being fixed at the same time as it getting nerfed and regular Force Heal is worthless so I'm reserving the right to grind out a few branches.

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TraceAntilles wrote:

Thats a good template, MLS, Menhancer, but choose Healer 4400 instead cause there are no fire defenses in your template with 4004 and fire dots are the chief and primary way BH's win nowadays.

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I support that, Healer 4400 is another option - and wound healing is a little plus

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Emouh wrote:

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TraceAntilles wrote:

Thats a good template, MLS, Menhancer, but choose Healer 4400 instead cause there are no fire defenses in your template with 4004 and fire dots are the chief and primary way BH's win nowadays.

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I support that, Healer 4400 is another option - and wound healing is a little plus

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I have to admit that does look promising, I just keep thinking that if i get rid of Healer xxx4 I'll regret it, but between H4040 and H4400 I would go with H4400

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paolo_ikro wrote:

Currently I am MLS/ME/H4004, I prefer this to H4040, as recently I have found that we have a lot of MBH/MCM players, who when played well can cause problems with DOT's. I prefer to be able to heal out of bleeds and poisons, I can't do anything about fire, but it isn't as bad to have to deal with one DOT as opposed to three.

I know it's the Pre CU FOTM, and I do lack a lot of defence, however, I don't expect to tank. This template is for fun primarily and as a support character. Prior to this I was MLS/MH/E4004, and unfortunately that just doesn't work too well at the moment. I did consider dropping the xxx4 line of Healer, but I think that if/when they bring back states properly, it will be invaluable.

I am not sure whether investing only xx2x in Defender would be much use, I am also intrigued by the previous poster who suggests, D3000 H2000. I would love to know how well this works, it sounds difficult to play, but the innate armor, will probably compensate for the reduction in healing power.

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The person in question is using MLS/MEnh/4004 Healer right now. Dizzy/Blind/Disease/Blind does not do much, so it's only for curing Poison/Stun and Intimidare for her. With the recent A.I Changes the use of 0004 healer dropped alot for me though. Against anything else than a combat medic the line feels mostly dead.

I wonder how much effect '+250' defense have against rifles/pistols/carbines. The effect for +500 is quite alot it seems, judging from what I have seen from my Defender friend when she's attacked by BH's.