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Thread: Template Question: MLS/MEnh+?

Areal
Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:21 am
#14

currently i'm MLS ME 4100heal nov def


i love this temp, i'm still learning how to play it


i used to be mls 4004enhanc 4000heal 0400powers 0040def


so my tatics have changed a lot


but i do havea lot of fun with my temp






Areal

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MsNiL
Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:38 am
#15





DaniB wrote:
ML/ME/4040H is a great template for people with post cu sabers (like that you mentioned).

The improved sap indirectly improves your damage on the opponentsmind over time, which seems the only way to defeat the enemy nowadays. Force managment is tricky at the moment, since we dont have the extra force regeneration of robes (which is approx 16% at a pure dual master template) but still possible. Against the best pvp MBH/MCM players youll have greatest difficulty (even with best saber), on my twink i can even manage to tank pre cu saber guys (730max sabers) on my MBH/MSmuggler/novice medic in 7000 energy / 75% armorbreak reduction armor (with 4000 in heightened senses and +25 healing efficiencythough).


I got that ML/ME/4040H template on one of my toons and it actually feelsthe mostlike a jedi (light side wise)and not like a swordmsan with a glowstick, so roleplay wise a fine template.





Sap is depending on making people heal often.

We have tried a few duels and she cannot even harm me enough to make me use my heals, and she is master lightsaber while I have nothing but forcearmor.

She will probably stasis and forcerun when a BH comes.


I have personally tried to defeat a few BH's myself but like I said, even when I use my best effort and they are sapped and have a spice downer I cannot push out enough damage to drain their mind, and I have a better lightsaber than she does.





--- Cancelled 24th November 2006
Reason: The lack of multiplayer pve content and Star Wars feel.
For 3 years I have tried to find excuses to stay in game but only the expansions offered me what I subscribed for in the first place: A multiplayer Star Wars pve experience with friends around the globe. I found friends but with almost no addition of pve content they dropped out one by one. Now it's my turn.
DaniB
Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:43 am
#16


iunderstand exactly what you mean!


i can only suggest that you and your friendshouldnt waste your time on BH's then. There are people out there understanding what numbers like 8000 energy armor with 75% armorbreakreduction and 5 seconds for 25% mind regeneration when sitting in a combat break means (and having a slow regenerating force bar/mind bar on the other side).


Time will tell if those people will find an ear at the soedevsabout the currentbalance joke.


[edit: i got a decent saber, that said, but i know exactly what happens if i met a capable, and i mean really capable, mcm player (regardless if mbh in template or not). Right now a jedi has no chance against a decent pvp player in ab reduction sliced armor and some heal ability, be it mcm or not.]





Message Edited by DaniB on 09-23-2005 09:45 AM

Leiowyn
Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:44 am
#17






MsNiL wrote:





DaniB wrote:
ML/ME/4040H is a great template for people with post cu sabers (like that you mentioned).

The improved sap indirectly improves your damage on the opponentsmind over time, which seems the only way to defeat the enemy nowadays. Force managment is tricky at the moment, since we dont have the extra force regeneration of robes (which is approx 16% at a pure dual master template) but still possible. Against the best pvp MBH/MCM players youll have greatest difficulty (even with best saber), on my twink i can even manage to tank pre cu saber guys (730max sabers) on my MBH/MSmuggler/novice medic in 7000 energy / 75% armorbreak reduction armor (with 4000 in heightened senses and +25 healing efficiencythough).


I got that ML/ME/4040H template on one of my toons and it actually feelsthe mostlike a jedi (light side wise)and not like a swordmsan with a glowstick, so roleplay wise a fine template.





Sap is depending on making people heal often.

We have tried a few duels and she cannot even harm me enough to make me use my heals, and she is master lightsaber while I have nothing but forcearmor.

She will probably stasis and forcerun when a BH comes.


I have personally tried to defeat a few BH's myself but like I said, even when I use my best effort and they are sapped and have a spice downer I cannot push out enough damage to drain their mind, and I have a better lightsaber than she does.








Tried going for a long slow kill ?


I find myselfbeing hard pressedto get through the AB sliced armour, cobs ,heals, food, spice etc...


So i change tactics


Hmm also use infusion sparingly if up against cm





Leiowyn
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Pre-CU JEDI KNIGHT * Brotherhood of the Sword

Once more under the guidance of Luscio

MsNiL
Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:51 am
#18






Leiowyn wrote:
Tried going for a long slow kill?
I find myselfbeing hard pressedto get through the AB sliced armour, cobs ,heals, food, spice etc...
So i change tactics
Hmm also use infusion sparingly if up against cm


Yes. I once spent 25 minutes with the same bounty hunter. I had to run away to meditate four times and after his second spice died he gave up, apologized and left. Without Stasis he would have got me the first time.

As you might know, I have 4500 health with my foodcombo, +1k mind +1k actionand only use total heal when appropiate. I am also extremely fast at using my customized keyset.

Cant deal out enough damage to make his health budge and therefore he does not use up his mind, even when sapped and on a downer.

PersonallyI drain too much force too fast. ForceArmor with no Aura do that to you.

Shauni is less competent than I am. I had to teach her setting up her own keyboard today since she have used toolbar only up to now, and her lightsaber do 200 points less damage, so I doubt she would stand a chance even if she have armorbreak.

Message Edited by MsNiL on 09-23-2005 06:53 PM



--- Cancelled 24th November 2006
Reason: The lack of multiplayer pve content and Star Wars feel.
For 3 years I have tried to find excuses to stay in game but only the expansions offered me what I subscribed for in the first place: A multiplayer Star Wars pve experience with friends around the globe. I found friends but with almost no addition of pve content they dropped out one by one. Now it's my turn.
KJFett3
Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:54 am
#19

I am MLS/ME/Heal3000/Def0020


I notice a difference in combat from when aura is up or not. That +250 is a big help, and more than makes up for the loss of +500 healing every 6 seconds. Remember, if things are going bad, you can /KD; /stasis and heal back to full health and maybe even regen your action and mind. Just remember, they are regening their mind and action as well. Also, the force defence in 0020def goes a long way when combined with the Enh force defence skills. A Master Powers will have a much harder time doing damage to you.



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MsNiL
Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:58 am
#20





KJFett3 wrote:

I am MLS/ME/Heal3000/Def0020


I notice a difference in combat from when aura is up or not. That +250 is a big help, and more than makes up for the loss of +500 healing every 6 seconds. Remember, if things are going bad, you can /KD; /stasis and heal back to full health and maybe even regen your action and mind. Just remember, they are regening their mind and action as well. Also, the force defence in 0020def goes a long way when combined with the Enh force defence skills. A Master Powers will have a much harder time doing damage to you.



Thanks. That's the post I have been waiting for.


I suppose you use Ruby Bliel as well?




--- Cancelled 24th November 2006
Reason: The lack of multiplayer pve content and Star Wars feel.
For 3 years I have tried to find excuses to stay in game but only the expansions offered me what I subscribed for in the first place: A multiplayer Star Wars pve experience with friends around the globe. I found friends but with almost no addition of pve content they dropped out one by one. Now it's my turn.
Emouh
Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:03 am
#21

Apart from BHs, does she intend to PvP much ? Cause Sap is only usefull in PvP, and like you developped before, if she's not able to pull enough damage to make the BH heal, it's just a useless debuff icon in the BH state bar.


So if she doesn't intend to PvP, maybe she'll consider taking some defender -extra defense never hurts - ?






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KJFett3
Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:11 am
#22






MsNiL wrote:





KJFett3 wrote:

I am MLS/ME/Heal3000/Def0020


I notice a difference in combat from when aura is up or not. That +250 is a big help, and more than makes up for the loss of +500 healing every 6 seconds. Remember, if things are going bad, you can /KD; /stasis and heal back to full health and maybe even regen your action and mind. Just remember, they are regening their mind and action as well. Also, the force defence in 0020def goes a long way when combined with the Enh force defence skills. A Master Powers will have a much harder time doing damage to you.



Thanks. That's the post I have been waiting for.


I suppose you use Ruby Bliel as well?







I have it just in case, but have not had to use it so far. You should never be in a spot that you have to be bliel to stim. If it is that bad, you need to sprout the wings. We are not defenders. Its a great template, and one similar to what I was working toward and almost had completed when CURB hit. I love Enhancer. Probably the one single profession I have been in the logest...aside from LS and Heal that everyone has.



!Drevin of DROW!
!!
MsNiL
Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:17 am
#23






Emouh wrote:
Apart from BHs, does she intend to PvP much ? Cause Sap is only usefull in PvP, and like you developped before, if she's not able to pull enough damage to make the BH heal, it's just a useless debuff icon in the BH state bar.

So if she doesn't intend to PvP, maybe she'll consider taking some defender -extra defense never hurts - ?




I do not think she is intending to pvp unless she manage to get hold of a very good Lightsaber. Our guild is mostly about pve.

It's all about Bounty Hunter's and general pve for her.




--- Cancelled 24th November 2006
Reason: The lack of multiplayer pve content and Star Wars feel.
For 3 years I have tried to find excuses to stay in game but only the expansions offered me what I subscribed for in the first place: A multiplayer Star Wars pve experience with friends around the globe. I found friends but with almost no addition of pve content they dropped out one by one. Now it's my turn.
trajen2
Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:18 am
#24







MsNiL wrote:



MLS/MEnh/3000 Healer/0020 Defender

+10 Innate armor, +285 melee defense, +285 ranged defense, +45 Force Defense, with the drawback of 500 lesser heals (might be replaced by stims?) and the forcecost for Force Aura.






This is my template. I tried the healer 4040 route but find this one slightly more versatile. . .


The additional 250 defense from basic aura is plenty and the FC is negligible. Using FA2 as primary defense, any reduction in number of hits is worth it to me for force cost reasons. . . although not a huge differnce vs. a LS, it is helpful vs. ranged weapons. And the additional 10 innate armor from novice def. is nice in conjunction with FA2.


I have never been healer 4000 so I am accustomed to the 500 pt lesser heals...plus it costs less force. . .


Oh, and my primary function is PvP . . .my saber is 700+ max damage







Message Edited by trajen2 on 09-23-2005 10:19 AM





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