Jedi Archive

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majorslappy wrote:

I hope they dump all the goofy combat graphics. Looks like a stupid form of Tekken or the old Batman TV show from the 60s.

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That was the same thing I was thinking.

Message Edited by TXwarrior on 04-04-2005 10:06 PM

I've been testing CU for a few days now, and I am down to three major problems with it:

1) No stimpacks/medical crafted items for healing

2) Icons are silly, no combat queue/peace button/clear button.

3) Jedi should not be forced into equivalent roles as other professions as the totality of their skillset. A Jedi template should be more well-rounded than a standard combat template (Good healing, great offense, good defense) and more comat oriented than a doctor or CM template. I'm fine with keeping the relative lack of tanking ability from this system if Jedi remain feeling like Jedi, and it gives more of an incentive for people to stay with traditional professions for some roles over Jedi.

We might not at all.

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Haerb wrote:
I've been testing CU for a few days now, and I am down to three major problems with it:

1) No stimpacks/medical crafted items for healing

2) Icons are silly, no combat queue/peace button/clear button.

3) Jedi should not be forced into equivalent roles as other professions as the totality of their skillset. A Jedi template should be more well-rounded than a standard combat template (Good healing, great offense, good defense) and more comat oriented than a doctor or CM template. I'm fine with keeping the relative lack of tanking ability from this system if Jedi remain feeling like Jedi, and it gives more of an incentive for people to stay with traditional professions for some roles over Jedi.

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From what you are experiencing now, do you think low-level Jedi will be able to solo?

Quote: From what you are experiencing now, do you think low-level Jedi will be able to solo?

Yes, I do. MOBs three levels below you (I'm taking them on as Unarmed 3 with little to no problem) grant 1120 XP each. MOBs one level below grant 1800 XP. I have never healed more than once on these things, using Center of Being. As well, finding missions at your difficulty will not be hard; mission terminals spit out missions at your level or 1 or 2 levels below.

Having an artificially high level from other skills will not affect your combat skills too much; you will not take more damage from a MOB because you are using a "lower" weapon than your top cert. This hasn't been tested, of course, so I'm not positive, but I do as well with Rifles 1 on these MOBs as I do with 2h 3, but I need to heal more. That's without kiting, by the way. They've also lowered high-level regen and upped high-level HAM, making it more feasable to be able to "hang in there" with a big MOB while not destroying combat utterly.

Jedi leveling will definitely be possible, but it will be slower. I'd recommend a change of Jedi XP to one half of standard weapons XP, which, when combined with the larger boxes, would be more in balance re: time/effort with the 1.5x standard while still making Jedi more difficult than its numbers alone are worth.

Message Edited by Haerb on 04-03-2005 04:09 PM

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Haerb wrote:
Quote: From what you are experiencing now, do you think low-level Jedi will be able to solo?

Yes, I do. MOBs three levels below you (I'm taking them on as Unarmed 3 with little to no problem) grant 1120 XP each. MOBs one level below grant 1800 XP. I have never healed more than once on these things, using Center of Being. As well, finding missions at your difficulty will not be hard; mission terminals spit out missions at your level or 1 or 2 levels below.

Having an artificially high level from other skills will not affect your combat skills too much; you will not take more damage from a MOB because you are using a "lower" weapon than your top cert. This hasn't been tested, of course, so I'm not positive, but I do as well with Rifles 1 on these MOBs as I do with 2h 3, but I need to heal more. That's without kiting, by the way. They've also lowered high-level regen and upped high-level HAM, making it more feasable to be able to "hang in there" with a big MOB while not destroying combat utterly.

Jedi leveling will definitely be possible, but it will be slower. I'd recommend a change of Jedi XP to one half of standard weapons XP, which, when combined with the larger boxes, would be more in balance re: time/effort with the 1.5x standard while still making Jedi more difficult than its numbers alone are worth.

Message Edited by Haerb on 04-03-2005 04:09 PM

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The thing is, Jedi XP is - I believe - 1/5th of normal weapons xp. That means Jedi paddies are going to be getting 200 Jedi Xp from each kill rather than the 1k under the old system, no?

XP is based solely on level. Thanks to some bugs, which I reported, I was able to test XP gain on bigger critters.

Level 18 group vs. Level 65 critter grants roughly 7000 XP. However, in that time, you can kill MANY lower critters. Plus, killing these things when the AI turns back on will require ranged professions, crowd control and mezzers, since they hit for over 1300 damage.

DON'T HOLD ME TO THIS:

It looks like Jedi XP is equal to standard prof XP.

One move is giving incorrect XP: Ranged weapon KD grants Jedi XP

If I do one, I get 17 XP converted from weapons to Jedi, and 2 XP off the Combat total.

This is the same rate as doing one hit with a wimpy melee strike.