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Thread: 80-85% Armor or 60-85% Lightsaber block, What do you prefer?

mochloD
Thu Sep 02, 2004 8:12 am
#1

Since the revamp and the removal of the Jedi's ability wear armor, we have all seen are Lightsaber blocking ability against ranged attacks increased. Many people (mostly ranged classes) feel that this makes us way overpowered (melee classes however arent minding it at all).


So my question to my fellow Jedi is this-


Would you rather have your 80-85% resist Composite Armor back or are you happy with Lightsaber block?



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Stonemoe
Thu Sep 02, 2004 8:15 am
#2

Hmm well can we have somewhere in between?


I would like to have some block, but some armor so that I don't have to heal myself every 5 seconds when fighting a big PvE spawn...



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Trobon18
Thu Sep 02, 2004 8:18 am
#3

My idea is still to give jedi 50% block to both ranged and melee and then place melee/ranged mitigation 1 and 2 on the lightsaber tree... not 3 cause that should be on the defense tree even though no one takes it.
mochloD
Thu Sep 02, 2004 8:19 am
#4






Stonemoe wrote:

Hmm well can we have somewhere in between?


I would like to have some block, but some armor so that I don't have to heal myself every 5 seconds when fighting a big PvE spawn...






I wouldnt mind something in between myself. Id accept 60% saber block at master lightsaber (40% at Lightsaber Techniques 4) if it blocked melee attacks as well.



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SDraven
Thu Sep 02, 2004 8:22 am
#5

it take block over armor.


armor = encumberance





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IdrisTycho
Thu Sep 02, 2004 8:25 am
#6






mochloD wrote:

Since the revamp and the removal of the Jedi's ability wear armor, we have all seen are Lightsaber blocking ability against ranged attacks increased. Many people (mostly ranged classes) feel that this makes us way overpowered (melee classes however arent minding it at all).


So my question to my fellow Jedi is this-


Would you rather have your 80-85% resist Composite Armor back or are you happy with Lightsaber block?





The thing is, the lightsaber blocking did not increase. Jedi guardians pre patch 9 had the same blocking chance AND they could wear armor.


We don't need armor back, we need to be able to block melee attacks too. Maybe not at the same rate as ranged attacks, but we need some melee defenses. Right now a Jedi who doesn't take Defender is a frail thing, easily decimated by melee hits if he cannot run away. While I don't think this should really change, I do think that until the combat balance happens, Jedi need some secondary defenses vs. melee attacks.

mochloD
Thu Sep 02, 2004 8:39 am
#7






SDraven wrote:

it take block over armor.


armor = encumberance








You do know that our Lightsabers do not use HAM for specials.... right?



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obiwan137
Thu Sep 02, 2004 8:41 am
#8






mochloD wrote:

Since the revamp and the removal of the Jedi's ability wear armor, we have all seen are Lightsaber blocking ability against ranged attacks increased. Many people (mostly ranged classes) feel that this makes us way overpowered (melee classes however arent minding it at all).


So my question to my fellow Jedi is this-


Would you rather have your 80-85% resist Composite Armor back or are you happy with Lightsaber block?






How about they give us what they promised and let us have resistant robes.

Message Edited by obiwan137 on 09-02-2004 08:42 AM



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coolman912
Thu Sep 02, 2004 8:46 am
#9






mochloD wrote:





SDraven wrote:

it take block over armor.


armor = encumberance








You do know that our Lightsabers do not use HAM for specials.... right?



I think he is refering to the regen on your pools not so much the saber cost




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leucine
Thu Sep 02, 2004 8:49 am
#10






mochloD wrote:

Since the revamp and the removal of the Jedi's ability wear armor, we have all seen are Lightsaber blocking ability against ranged attacks increased. Many people (mostly ranged classes) feel that this makes us way overpowered (melee classes however arent minding it at all).


So my question to my fellow Jedi is this-


Would you rather have your 80-85% resist Composite Armor back or are you happy with Lightsaber block?







i would have prefered theyremovedthe 97.5% offensive against jedi vs jedi fights, so they can be a victor. Though kept the nerf for jedi vs non jedi fights. That way everyone would have been happy,and wouldn't have had to cancel my account. Though basic common sense like that is beyond the grasp of a Developer.






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mochloD
Thu Sep 02, 2004 8:49 am
#11







obiwan137 wrote:






mochloD wrote:

Since the revamp and the removal of the Jedi's ability wear armor, we have all seen are Lightsaber blocking ability against ranged attacks increased. Many people (mostly ranged classes) feel that this makes us way overpowered (melee classes however arent minding it at all).


So my question to my fellow Jedi is this-


Would you rather have your 80-85% resist Composite Armor back or are you happy with Lightsaber block?






How about they give us what they promised and let us have resistant robes.

Message Edited by obiwan137 on 09-02-200408:42 AM







I really wanted resists in the robes too but the problem is, I really hate the robes. We went from Composite Clone Jedi to Bright-White-Padawan-Robe Jedi, not a huge improvement.


IdrisTychomentioed that Guardians pre-patch had the same saber block and they could wear armor. That is true but the majority of the Jedi were not Guardians and even at Padawan (old system) i'm pretty sure I didnt have +60 saberblock or anwhere close to it (i think it was +15 but ive spelt since then). The day the revamp hit i received +60 Lightsaber block. I guess i was speaking about my (and other low level jedi's) revamp gains and not every single Jedi as a whole. The majority of the Jedi before the revamp were not Guardians (or even Knights) and didnt have access to the amount of saber block that they have now.

Message Edited by mochloD on 09-02-2004 10:50 AM



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NemKhis
Thu Sep 02, 2004 8:56 am
#12

I think that jedi should have innate ability to defend....they block bolts due to thier ability to see things before they happen...which should also apply to defenses. They should also recieve defenses vs KD, posture change etc...considering balance is a key element of a swordsman and IMO jedi would be the most elite of swordsman correct?


I think they should add a little better innate ability to jedi melee defense, leave ranged block alone....or add some actual defenses to the jedi robes (like a lower percentage armor)


Jedi with Defense skill should be an improvement on the already decent jedi defense.....its just part of a jedi to be strong on attack and defense.



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obiwan137
Thu Sep 02, 2004 9:22 am
#13






mochloD wrote:







obiwan137 wrote:






mochloD wrote:

Since the revamp and the removal of the Jedi's ability wear armor, we have all seen are Lightsaber blocking ability against ranged attacks increased. Many people (mostly ranged classes) feel that this makes us way overpowered (melee classes however arent minding it at all).


So my question to my fellow Jedi is this-


Would you rather have your 80-85% resist Composite Armor back or are you happy with Lightsaber block?






How about they give us what they promised and let us have resistant robes.

Message Edited by obiwan137 on 09-02-200408:42 AM







I really wanted resists in the robes too but the problem is, I really hate the robes. We went from Composite Clone Jedi to Bright-White-Padawan-Robe Jedi, not a huge improvement.


Message Edited by mochloD on 09-02-2004 10:50 AM





I have to agree with you there. I've got a tailor made Sith and Jedi robe/clothes that look better (in color and appearance) than those white sheats. Where's the brown? Look at the board picture. See those guys in the background. Brown. Those are the robes I want and that is what the Jedi actually look like. Anyway I also agree with the inate defences. Jedi have uber-reflexes due to their conection to the Force so they should be able to even see Teras Kasi fists.



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