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Thread: Saber damage is fine the way it is. no Pearl fix needed.

oANUBUSo
Wed Aug 31, 2005 1:35 pm
#1




I honestly believe limiting the amount of Premmy Pearls drops in this game is truly a good thing. So many ppl argue the point of not being able to take out a BH or other elite prof simply because you can't do enough damage via sabers or master powers.Its no question this game doesn’t fall totallyinline with cannon, and if it did the imbalance in power would be immeasurable and unacceptable by the non-Jedicommunity. So why dopeople complaining about our sabers or master powersbeing so weak vs other standard professions? Simply because they don’t have a clue on the possibility the Jedi profession offers. Allot of the complaints i here (75% at least) come from ppl who are post-CU Jedi.If you honestly think about it, with the exception of improved weapons and SEAs, non-Jedi profs have reached the pinnacle with there profession, player skill becomes more of a determining factor inavatar distinction and recognition.


the Jedi Prof is the only profession that allows for an addition progression, even after a full template is completed, to gain power substantially.No other profession in this gamehas this possibility and thusthethe appeal the Jedi profession has currently over other profs is warranted, as it should be. On this simple premise alone the magnitude in which one needs to grind can be understood and accepted by the majority. Those who have realized this truth rarely complain about damage output, rarely do they Slander SOE for failing to make Jedi a viable profession, andhardly ever do they complain about being out matched by another profession, or collection of. In a profession such as Jedi, its not just a matter for SOE to balance outa Jedi from profession that fully template, but also a profession that has that unique ability to gain even more power innately over time of play and effort. the beginning of such a trail for a Jedi prof has to start extremely weak to eventually become extremely powerful.

I just honestly think ppl need to realize that they are only a pad wan, and comparatively should a padawan be so powerful as to obliterate and pillage though any opposition that arises? not if that opposition is full templated and knows what he's doing. and even if that was the case and padawans were that powerful, what would that say for tha knights, the guardians, or the masters to come soon after as you progress?

just an opinion

starcrusher04
Wed Aug 31, 2005 1:39 pm
#2

the jedi profession is the only profession in the game that is currently widely gimped due to a resource shortage. There is no reason I should be limited to a weapon with a max damage of 550 if I am CL 80.


Don't say: Oh, you just need to work really hard to get enough pearls so that one will tune well.

Fencers and TKMs get quests that assure them that if they follow certain steps, they will receive the best weapons their professions can wield.


The main reason we're in this situation is because of people crying about high-level mobs.



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AnimalMagnet
Wed Aug 31, 2005 1:43 pm
#3






starcrusher04 wrote:

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Don't say: Oh, you just need to work really hard to get enough pearls so that one will tune well.

Fencers and TKMs get quests that assure them that if they follow certain steps, they will receive the best weapons their professions can wield.


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Noone ever said the path ofa Jedi was an easy one.

TT1
Wed Aug 31, 2005 1:48 pm
#4






AnimalMagnet wrote:





starcrusher04 wrote:

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Don't say: Oh, you just need to work really hard to get enough pearls so that one will tune well.

Fencers and TKMs get quests that assure them that if they follow certain steps, they will receive the best weapons their professions can wield.


...



Noone ever said the path ofa Jedi was an easy one.








This wasn't about xp or BHs. It was a fair statement about an important part of a temp.


Lightsabers are currently one of the weakest weapons in the game, compared to pistols, carbines and rifles.


That makes no sense. Jedi are solely dependent on pearls/crystals to -match- the other weapons.


People who are asking for a fix, are being reasonable.


MasterSheep
Wed Aug 31, 2005 1:49 pm
#5

if you think 550 max dam on a saber is underpowered please read my saber damage post floating around the fronpage atm- 550-450 is actuallty a better weapon for high end content than any ranged weapon in the game.



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LokeiAvian
Wed Aug 31, 2005 1:54 pm
#6






oANUBUSo wrote:



I just honestly think ppl need to realize that they are only a pad wan, and comparatively should a padawan be so powerful as to obliterate and pillage though any opposition that arises? not if that opposition is full templated and knows what he's doing




I'd just like to point out that a teen/pre-teen padawan took down 8-9 hardened clone troopers before he went down in Episode 3. That is a pretty apparent large power curve as introduced through canon material.



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starcrusher04
Wed Aug 31, 2005 1:59 pm
#7






MasterSheep wrote:

if you think 550 max dam on a saber is underpowered please read my saber damage post floating around the fronpage atm- 550-450 is actuallty a better weapon for high end content than any ranged weapon in the game.



A'ru







Uh. how would that be possible, since I kill one lvl 80 mob like one of those spiders in the mydrill caves and I'm close to half out of force?



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HayabusaN
Wed Aug 31, 2005 2:01 pm
#8

go read his post basically it says laser rifle is good in pve. saber is good in pvp.



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starcrusher04
Wed Aug 31, 2005 2:16 pm
#9

great. i will be sure to bring this arguement with me when i duel other jedi.



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TheMonkeyDude
Wed Aug 31, 2005 2:22 pm
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oANUBUSo wrote:



I just honestly think ppl need to realize that they are only a pad wan, and comparatively should a padawan be so powerful as to obliterate and pillage though any opposition that arises? not if that opposition is full templated and knows what he's doing




Um hey dude, in the movies there isn't that much difference between one burning hot beam of pure energy and another.


The difference wasn't in the dmg or how fast they could burn through stuff lol it was in the skills at wielding the weapon.


That and i recall seeing a teenage padawan take out 10+ clone troopers with 30+ shooting at him. Doesn't seem to bad to me for a new, and we're all basically knights unlike him lol.

MasterSheep
Wed Aug 31, 2005 2:24 pm
#11

yeah its no where near as simple as it seems - and jedi vs jedi sure a 400 max saber will be beaten by a 500 dam one.



the point i try to make in my post is that in PvP weapons work off the MIN damage and elemental - max damage is pretty much irrelevent


so 400-1184 rifle is no better than a 300-400 saber with 100 elemental


read the post i made hard numbers inside





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aose
Wed Aug 31, 2005 2:26 pm
#12

well when you factor in that thier weapons are getting better and thier heals are getting better and now they have armor break sliced armor I say yeah saber damage is way under par and my saber is above average. They can heal better then us at times so why shouldnt our weapons be better?
MasterSheep
Wed Aug 31, 2005 2:30 pm
#13

a good saber (550 - 450 or better) is better in pvp than any rifle you can craft - and the caps come into play on crafted weapons so you cant better them (well for damage at least). read my in depth post i personally am of the oppinin that a 500-400 saber is about equivelent to the best regular weapons available



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