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Thread: MDEF Template Question

Archly626
Fri Sep 09, 2005 8:08 pm
#1

So after pondering this for some timw I guess it's about time to toss the idea up here on the boards. The base template is as follows:


Master Defender- LS 0404 - Healer 4000 - Enhancer 3002


The toss up in this is where to put the extra 21 points after all the rest is said and done.


Healer 4040:

This allows for the use of Improved Sap and Shock. Now at the moment states seem to do nothing thus making one of these two abilities essentialy useless. However on the other hand Sap seems to be very effective in leveling the playing field in 1 Vs. 1 duels espaically if said Jedi doesn't have an up to snuff saber yet.


Enhancer 3402:

Going in this direction would build a better tank. Even with an armor break applied the template woudls till be able to hold out against damage and more over has Force Feedback to deter those pesky Master Power Dark Jedi. On the other hand however running FA2 is another drain on force...


LS 4044 or LS 0444:

Picking up another saber tree in order to gain a slight bonus to Acc but more importantly additional moves to cycle through. In either case there is another base attack ( either Body hit or Leg Hit ) some type of state hit ( Assuming states will be fixed bear in mind Blind is a -Acc and Stun is recharge reducer and Dizzy is a Acc and Def reducer, so Stun perhaps would have the better use of the first two ) and a utility hit ( Bleed Vs. AoE hit )


So...I leave this one up to the hopefully the wisdom of the boards. Please respond in clear thoughts and explain what is best rather then just making bland bold statements that do for a waste of time. I appriciate any help people can offer in advance.
Grayyfox
Fri Sep 09, 2005 8:47 pm
#2

id drop healer to 3000 and go 4002 enhancer



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LauKe
Fri Sep 09, 2005 8:49 pm
#3

DONT DROP HEALER DOWN TO 3000. 0400 enhancer is nice, do what you want though, play what's fun.



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Grayyfox
Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:02 pm
#4

dont listen to the pearson above me i have mdef and healer 3000 and have never been killed by a single bh just gank squads now the reson i say drop healer to 3000 is at mdef imp force infusion is your friend just keep it going and u should only have to do a 1k heal 2-3 time during your fight and the reason for 4002 enhancer is for your imp force supression the root of all roots control your bounty dont let the bounty control YOU



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Grayyfox
Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:06 pm
#5

ah and the temper comes out how long do peeps get band for un called for names hmmmm



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Grayyfox
Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:07 pm
#6

and BTW my mind has never droped below 80% in any Bh fight



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LauKe
Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:07 pm
#7



Grayyfox wrote:
ah and the temper comes out how long do peeps get band for un called for names hmmmm


I wont get banned because I didnt call you a name, I said dont be one, not you are one, see the difference? I do, maybe you dont, but it's there. I've said nothing against the rules, and have only stated that using mind less often is better using the same ammount of mind more often. Aswell as instructing the poster not to be a jackass, which means dont be dumb.



__ LauKe and Perse ______________
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"All of these aspects combine to make this expansion look and feel like you
are literally walking into the world of Episode III. "
WRONG GAME NUMBNUTS!!!
no a deal is to think about trading, THINK. so why would i go on trade
forums and say i THINK i wana trade for some tailor compnents, but i
THINK i dont know yet, i wana settle a deal incase i do or dont want to
trade, does that mean i want to or have to,cos i settle a deal? no
thought so and if you think it does mean that you odnt have a clue bout
businessmanship, if thats a whole word lol
Balance the ROTW ships. Just say no to Space Composite!
Trials of Obi-Wan? Stop adding prequel rubbish and put the Star Wars back into Star Wars Galaxies!
It should be an Empire Divided, not an Empire Grinding on Bols or placing thousands of 'factional bases'!
Grinding should not exist in a fun MMO!
The Galactic Civil War should be the focus of this game, not an under-developed afterthought!
FARSTAR PWNS ECLIPSE!
In Russia, JTL play you!
This is a local server for local people, there's nothing for you here!
"You are what you eat," said the waiter.
"Bah, Humbug!" replied Mr Scrooge, as he ate his Roast Lamb with Mint.

hehe. CSR are not supposed to help game play!
This sig stolen from crixx.

Grayyfox
Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:10 pm
#8

healer 4000 is not needed if u have mdef its that simple



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LauKe
Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:13 pm
#9



Grayyfox wrote:
healer 4000 is not needed if u have mdef its that simple


yes, yes it is.



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"All of these aspects combine to make this expansion look and feel like you
are literally walking into the world of Episode III. "
WRONG GAME NUMBNUTS!!!
no a deal is to think about trading, THINK. so why would i go on trade
forums and say i THINK i wana trade for some tailor compnents, but i
THINK i dont know yet, i wana settle a deal incase i do or dont want to
trade, does that mean i want to or have to,cos i settle a deal? no
thought so and if you think it does mean that you odnt have a clue bout
businessmanship, if thats a whole word lol
Balance the ROTW ships. Just say no to Space Composite!
Trials of Obi-Wan? Stop adding prequel rubbish and put the Star Wars back into Star Wars Galaxies!
It should be an Empire Divided, not an Empire Grinding on Bols or placing thousands of 'factional bases'!
Grinding should not exist in a fun MMO!
The Galactic Civil War should be the focus of this game, not an under-developed afterthought!
FARSTAR PWNS ECLIPSE!
In Russia, JTL play you!
This is a local server for local people, there's nothing for you here!
"You are what you eat," said the waiter.
"Bah, Humbug!" replied Mr Scrooge, as he ate his Roast Lamb with Mint.

hehe. CSR are not supposed to help game play!
This sig stolen from crixx.

Grayyfox
Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:15 pm
#10

if your a mdef and must have 4000 healer then u need to tune your robe in and find a new game medf with healer 4000 is a waste of sp



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negilum
Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:17 pm
#11

Since you're already m def picking up FA2 would have less impact than spending the points in either saber or healer. That said, I think choosing between sap and another line of saber would depend first on what you plan on doing and on the quality of your saber. When it comes to single fights/bh if you have good pearls/crystals go for saber and try to overwhelm your opponent quickly. If not go for sap and whittle away at them with the force efficient saberhit while letting sap take it's toll on their action and mind. For mass pvp either sap or a line of saber (I'd lean towards 0444 for the area attack and stun if they ever fix it) would be helpful to your group. For pve go with 0444 saber.
LauKe
Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:17 pm
#12



Grayyfox wrote:
if your a mdef and must have 4000 healer then u need to tune your robe in and find a new game medf with healer 4000 is a waste of sp


2 sp for an extra 500 on your heals? And to "tune" a robe, dont think that's implemented into the game atm.



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K I S S M Y M O N K E Y
________________________________________________________________________________________________

"All of these aspects combine to make this expansion look and feel like you
are literally walking into the world of Episode III. "
WRONG GAME NUMBNUTS!!!
no a deal is to think about trading, THINK. so why would i go on trade
forums and say i THINK i wana trade for some tailor compnents, but i
THINK i dont know yet, i wana settle a deal incase i do or dont want to
trade, does that mean i want to or have to,cos i settle a deal? no
thought so and if you think it does mean that you odnt have a clue bout
businessmanship, if thats a whole word lol
Balance the ROTW ships. Just say no to Space Composite!
Trials of Obi-Wan? Stop adding prequel rubbish and put the Star Wars back into Star Wars Galaxies!
It should be an Empire Divided, not an Empire Grinding on Bols or placing thousands of 'factional bases'!
Grinding should not exist in a fun MMO!
The Galactic Civil War should be the focus of this game, not an under-developed afterthought!
FARSTAR PWNS ECLIPSE!
In Russia, JTL play you!
This is a local server for local people, there's nothing for you here!
"You are what you eat," said the waiter.
"Bah, Humbug!" replied Mr Scrooge, as he ate his Roast Lamb with Mint.

hehe. CSR are not supposed to help game play!
This sig stolen from crixx.

Lumby_man
Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:22 pm
#13

Just an idea if you have already crafted your saber, you could go MDEF x4x1 LS x4xx Powers 4xx2 enh and 4xxx healer. would work out pretty well if you ask me. You dont getthe range with saberthrowor blocking, but with valor you make up for that and the states are pretty worthless right now. I would do this if you dont want MLS.



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