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Thread: Question for the PvP Gods :)
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Wing2nutts
Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:15 am
#1
Scenario:
Template: MLS / DEF 4440 / Healer 4000 / Enh 3002
Lightsaber: Damage: 611 - 711 / Speed: 1.43 / FC:12 / SAC 97
Foods /Drinks: Ready to go on a macro (Crispix, Cannape, Booster and 3 others I can recall but they all stack together)
Enhancements: Force Aura, Infusion, and Speed Macro ready to go.
So your running around taking care of buisiness and POW.
OK, heart starts racing but you maintain cool, and hit the 2 buttons. Food / Drink macro, and Force Enhancement macro and you are ready for bear!
With your defences up you then figure you can start looking for your opponent, but you see out of the corner of your eye the DOTS stacking up... fire, poison, disease, ect ... and you know the Combat Medic has come a calling.
So you target your opponent, get a heal in, hit the follow button.
Now, from this point I am in constant heal mode, maybe getting an insignificant hit in which the target shrugs off I am assuming. If I am lucky (about 1 out of 3 times) I am able to get to the next phase of the fight, but most of the time the DOTS and KD's hit at just the right time and I get incapped before my heals go off.
Next phase:
This happens sometimes, eventually I pop my health crystal, and Channel like crazy while running up every hill I can find recharging. However, the time comes where I have to hit the holocron.
These fight NEVER go well. I can ussualy drop most other BH's but I cant seem to bother the CM template.
Tell me please what I can do to over come this. I know there are those out there that can and do put the CM / BH's in there place, but there is a BH on Sunrunner that justI just cant seem to overcome. Eldahara is the name, for those on Sunrunner.
Message Edited by Wing2nutts on 10-06-2005 08:00 AM
Message Edited by Wing2nutts on 10-06-2005 08:02 AM
Wing2nutts
Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:16 am
#2
Scenario:
Template: MLS / DEF 4440 / Healer 4000 / Enh 3002
Lightsaber: Damage: 611 - 711 / Speed: 1.43 / FC:12 / SAC 97
Foods /Drinks: Ready to go on a macro (Crispix, Cannape, Booster and 3 others I can recall but they all stack together)
Enhancements: Force Aura, Infusion, and Speed Macro ready to go.
So your running around taking care of buisiness and POW.
OK, heart racing but you maintain cool, and hit the 2 buttons. Food / Drink macro, and Force Enhancement macro and you are ready for bear!
With your defences up you then figure you can start looking for your opponent, but you see out of the corner of your eye the DOTS stacking up... fire, poison, disease, ect ... and you know the Combat Medic has come a calling.
So you target your opponent, get a heal in, hit the follow button.
Now, from this point I am in constant heal mode, maybe getting an insignificant hit in which the target shrugs off I am assuming. If I am lucky (about 1 out of 3 times) I am able to get to the next phase of the fight, but most of the time the DOTS and KD's hit at just the right time and I get incapped before my heals go off.
Next phase:
This happens sometimes, eventually I pop my health crystal, and Channel like crazy while running up every hill I can find recharging. However, the time comes where I have to hit the holocron.
These fight NEVER go well. I can ussualy drop most other BH's but I cant seem to bother the CM template.
Tell me please what I can do to over come this. I know there are those out there that can and do put the CM / BH's in there place, but there is a BH on Sunrunner that justI just cant seem to overcome. Eldahara is the name, for those on Sunrunner.
Message Edited by Wing2nutts on 10-06-2005 01:56 PM
BOy2K
Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:17 am
#3
holy sheeet! that cant be right!
Wing2nutts wrote:
Template: MLS / DEF 4440 / Healer 4000 / Enh 3002
Lightsaber: Damage: 611 - 711 / Speed: 1.43 / FC: 48 / SAC 97
Foods /Drinks: Ready to go on a macro (Crispix, Cannape, Booster and 3 others I can recall but they all stack together)
Enhancements: Force Aura, Infusion, and Speed Macro ready to go.
DarthNkari
Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:25 am
#4
since CMs can kite pretty easy with the 2min snare....first we will just assume you can get into melee with him, but that can be difficult all by itself
assuming you get them in melee, it wont be too long before they figure out that they should exit melee and resume kiting. so, you gotta go for the quick kill. just do routine attacks....armor break then just leg and head hit. once you see his health and/or action just under 1/2 go for the KD and power attack and keep bombing
of course this is pretty basic im sure im not telling you anything new....but yea as a jedi vs a CM snare theres not much you can really do. kinda lame
Gorthu
Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:41 am
#5
maybe you need to pick up mdef and drop to 3000 heal & 0002 ehn. Kick on VALOR (it blocks most of incoming shots)...you popping any "pika pie" (dodge food)? and don't use force to heal right off. use a stim...ruby...stim...instead of cannape (unless it is low fill) try brandy...leave your stomach open for the ruby. and if you bh is kiting...saber throw is your only offense. Do you have a psg?
Lord-R
Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:42 am
#6
My Template is the same and my sabers just a few points weaker than yours and 0.03 secs faster. There is only one MCM i faced that has beaten me. But i beat him the second time he came after me.
i do the same as you. Hit all my foods. (don't forget the Fire absorption drink) toss up force speed/force run ( important to counter thier snare and thypoid rupture) and infusion as start on my attacks.I have ran all the MCM's I've faced out of mind i think the key is to constantly keep them rooted and AB'ed
something that really helped me a lot is to place my targets window right above my chat box and strech it out enough so i can make sure to see when my AB stick as well as my root and bleed. (imo bleed is very helpful since our bleeds do 200-300 damage per tick AB+saber throw+Bleed will make it tick that high)
the first few times BH's have shown up for me with 5 icons for buffs and 5 icons for food i had no idea if my AB,bleed or anything else for that matter stuck.
hope this helps a bit.
Message Edited by Lord-R on 10-06-2005 07:46 AM
Wing2nutts
Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:55 am
#8
Thank you very much. I am by no means a PvP god and it has always been that way. DOOM, QUAKE, DUKE NUKEM, I sucked at all, but I like it very much.
The thing is my heart starts racing and my mind dont work fast enough or my hands dont respond to commands. Whatever the reason, the feeling is awesome.
The problem is most likely my PvP skills, but alot of the time it seems I dont even have enough time to react. Thanks for all the feedback.
Salvtore
Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:56 am
#9
Also this is similar to what happened to me. My counter tactic now is to drop enhancer x4xx and get healer xxx4x. This way I can throw Improved Sap and Shock on the CM. Watch as he slows to a crawl and his heals aren't just enough. Once you have imp shock, start hitting with your bleed, blind, dizzy and stun attacks. Hope this helps. I haven't tested it, but I had it done to me by a friend jedi. It's a nasty combo! Good Luck.
Lord-R
Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:56 am
#10
Gorthu wrote:
maybe you need to pick up mdef and drop to 3000 heal & 0002 ehn.
(MCM are the best for killing Mdef)
Kick on VALOR (it blocks most of incoming shots)...you popping any "pika pie" (dodge food)?
(why does he need Valor and Pika pie? its the DOTS (fire and pision) that is taking chunks out of his health! )
and don't use force to heal right off. use a stim...ruby...stim...instead of cannape (unless it is low fill) try brandy...leave your stomach open for the ruby. and if you bh is kiting...saber throw is your only offense. Do you have a psg?
my good friend which i had to watch Die today is MLS/Mdef/3000heal/0002Enh and all she could do was Saber throw snice she was snared the whole fight and could not get within melee range.
Saber throwalone will NOT cut it you need to root them and you yourself need Force Run to be able to keep up with them after they stick their 2min snare on you (force run1 counters their 2min snare)
Etagnirps
Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:08 am
#12
I can deal with CM/MBH's pretty well, have only died once so far, and he wasnt a combat medic lol
all I do is make sure I keep armour break on and stunning strike, if they get out of melee range i spam saber throw till they are KD then when I get close I AB and stun them, keep hitting them with power attack or body hit, mixed with the odd saber throw and I can out last them pretty well.
Tactics will vary depending on the player, but that seems to have done me well so far
Wing2nutts
Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:18 am
#13
Ok, Stunning Strike is something I have not used a lot. I will give that a shot.
Also, did some testing yesterday and it seems that Improved Aura reduced damage taken from a Lightsaber by only 30 points. Is that right? I have not tested it against ranged yet, but 30 points doesnt seem like a lot.
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