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Thread: Jack-of-All, Master-of-None Template Q
Ok, was playing around with template ideas and was wondering if anyone could say anything about this:
0040 Defender (Improved Force Valor)
4404 Enhancer (Improved Force Run, Improved Force Speed, Improved Force Armor, Force Drain, Force Channel)
4040 Healer (Advanced Force Heal, Improved Force Infusion, Improved Force Sap, Improved Force Shock)
0404 Lightsaber
0040 Powers (Improved Force Intimidate, Improved Force Weaken)
???
MohdriDarkstar wrote:
Ok, was playing around with template ideas and was wondering if anyone could say anything about this:
0040 Defender (Improved Force Valor)
4404 Enhancer (Improved Force Run, Improved Force Speed, Improved Force Armor, Force Drain, Force Channel)
4040 Healer (Advanced Force Heal, Improved Force Infusion, Improved Force Sap, Improved Force Shock)
0404 Lightsaber
0040 Powers (Improved Force Intimidate, Improved Force Weaken)
???
Low force pool.
MohdriDarkstar wrote:
Would being able to channel, drain force, and use holocrons make up for this? How about using Force Pool buffing robes?
All that will help, but your force pool is going to be 5725 give or take, 300ish lower than a mastery and 900ish lower than a double mastery.
As I've never played a Jedi toon (working on it) I have no idea how critical it is to have a max'd out Force Pool over being able to utilize the tools in the template I've described, which seems reasonable.
Alternatively, one could go:
0040 Defender
Master Enhancer
4040 Healer
0404 Saber
MohdriDarkstar wrote:
As I've never played a Jedi toon (working on it) I have no idea how critical it is to have a max'd out Force Pool over being able to utilize the tools in the template I've described, which seems reasonable.
Alternatively, one could go:
0040 Defender
Master Enhancer
4040 Healer
0404 Saber
0040 defender is Aura, not valor. valor is 0004.
As for your template, I don't really think master is that necessary. 300 force is not really that much. But I would recommend changing the line in powers to lightning.
With Channel and meditate, holocrons, and robes, you should be ok.
These days I think the master boxes are over-rated, as they seem to keep getting nerfed anyway.
But your template will be EXTREMELY force intensive. Just keep that in mind. You're using force for EVERYTHING. and Adv. Force armor can eat through the force when your under heavy fire.
I'm doing something similar actually.
Right now, I'm:
Master Lightsaber
Enhancer 3004
Healer 4000
Defender 0040
and Powers 0004.
Not the brightest of temps at all. But, i have fun.
MohdriDarkstar wrote:Ok, was playing around with template ideas and was wondering if anyone could say anything about this:
0040 Defender (Improved Force Valor)
4404 Enhancer (Improved Force Run, Improved Force Speed, Improved Force Armor, Force Drain, Force Channel)
4040 Healer (Advanced Force Heal, Improved Force Infusion, Improved Force Sap, Improved Force Shock)
0404 Lightsaber
0040 Powers (Improved Force Intimidate, Improved Force Weaken)
???
There are only 3 viable Powers choices:
- no Powers at all
- dabble for Cloak
- Master Force Wielder
Anything else will gimp you since damage mods are spread throughout the boxes and if you just have the lightning or intimidate lines, you will not do a lot of damage. So either move that line to Force Cloak, or dont take Powers at all.
Furthermore, as you already have Enh 4404, it might be a good idea to master that one so you get the +5 Force regen of at least one Mastery.
Based on your above choice I would recommend:
LS 0404 / MEnh / Heal 4000 / Pow 0400 / Def 0040
LS 0404 / MEnh / Heal 4140 / Def 0040
LS 0404 / MEnh / Heal 4100 / Def 4040
Message Edited by Eskie on 10-27-2005 12:56 PM
i have almost exactly the template in question
x4x4 LS
44x3 enhancer
414x Healer
xx4x def
x4xx powers
and i love it - it is a little weak on regen and force pool - but i can get up to +61 regen and 6000 force with one of those cloaks and some nice CA's
i bet if you get the robe and stack up on force regen tapes...and keep a holo you'd be fine....with the robe and regen tapes you can get around +15..haven't done the math...but an extra 15 regen plus the 250 force you get in the robe..that'll give you around 6k force with decent regen...
Ceasar
Aalob Alarios
GunFu wrote:
You should at least have one master box.
i disagree here - with the right kit - lots of Ca's and a good saber(im an ex master WS so im not poor) i effectively have a MLS build from my template (look up 2 posts) however i save 41 skill points.. which i spent on cloak and force sap lines...
a non master template has to be built carefully though and you have to get good kit to counter your weaknesses.
MohdriDarkstar wrote:Ok, was playing around with template ideas and was wondering if anyone could say anything about this:
0040 Defender (Improved Force Valor)
4404 Enhancer (Improved Force Run, Improved Force Speed, Improved Force Armor, Force Drain, Force Channel)
4040 Healer (Advanced Force Heal, Improved Force Infusion, Improved Force Sap, Improved Force Shock)
0404 Lightsaber
0040 Powers (Improved Force Intimidate, Improved Force Weaken)
???
Drop sap and take Master Enhancer. Higher force pool, stasis, fr3, and self rez.