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Thread: DWB Exploiters are going to get Cloak NERFED

Cafa
Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:17 am
#105






Kurso wrote:





Cafa wrote:





Kurso wrote:

XP lose is an intended game mechanic.


Being hunted repeatedly by the same BH is stated to be harrasment. They have started to implement game mechanics to prevent this. i.e No more Jedi names on the terms.


Training large mobs on other players to purposely kill them is NOT and intended game mechanic.


Spawning SBDs every time you loot the DWB IS an intended game mechanic to prevent someone from continually looting it without consequence. Cloaking while looting it is getting around this game mechanic.


But someone repeatedly looting the DWB is not my main concern. Training large mobs on other players to purposely kill them is.








Yes well, when you're the only dang guild online and not camping the trails, the BH's kinda visit us a lot.


Having said that, dragging mobs on other players is wrong, and I agree with you onthat sir.


Fivo Asia





Good, we agree. Normally in the DWB this is hard to do because if you have 10 SBDs agroed your going to be dead long before you can drag this mob to another player. But if your cloaked they agro you, follow you, and kill others but you can't be attacked.


So how do you propose it be fixed?








Hmm, well by cannon there was maybe two jedi ever that could affect droids. Seems to me that cloak shouldn't work against droids. Just a thought.


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Matt2000
Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:18 am
#106


ok from what i have seen in the DWB the SBD that chase cloaked jedi around wont attack other groups unless they attack them first, they normaly walk back to there own areas, secondly if you want to see Cloak being NERF'ED then all that has to be done is to remove the ability to loot while cloaked as then they cant recloak witht he aggroed SBD within 10 m and will have to fight them selfs out...



SO DONT AGGRO THE SBD THEY WONT ATTACK YOU



SCREAM NERF IF YOU WANT BUT YOU ONLY HAVE TO MAKE LOOTING POSSIBLE WHILE UNCLOAKED..



at this rate all jedi powers will be in masters box's! when its not the power but the lack of though in game design..

Kurso
Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:24 am
#107







Matt2000 wrote:


ok from what i have seen in the DWB the SBD that chase cloaked jedi around wont attack other groups unless they attack them first, they normaly walk back to there own areas, secondly if you want to see Cloak being NERF'ED then all that has to be done is to remove the ability to loot while cloaked as then they cant recloak witht he aggroed SBD within 10 m and will have to fight them selfs out...



SO DONT AGGRO THE SBD THEY WONT ATTACK YOU



SCREAM NERF IF YOU WANT BUT YOU ONLY HAVE TO MAKE LOOTING POSSIBLE WHILE UNCLOAKED..



at this rate all jedi powers will be in masters box's! when its not the power but the lack of though in game design..






Thats not true. What if you are healing? They will attack. What if your in combat with something else? They will attack. This IS an issue. Plain and simple.


I don't care if cloak is moved toMaster Powers or not. But I do think cloak should be broken by droids. It should be broken by interacting with other players (healing someone). It should be broken by interacting with items in the game world.



Message Edited by Kurso on 08-23-2005 10:43 AM



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VilKaleThaos
Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:20 am
#108

kurso STOP CRYING LIKE A FEMALE PANDA!


cloak is not an exploit, what about before cu and powers had mind trick which was the ability to argo mobs to attack players. is that an exploit too, is it an exploit when u go overt and get attacked by npc mobs, what if i was hidding ain a base is that an exploit? cloak maybe broken but its not an exploit so stop trying to get it nerfed.


what about speed hacking, there'san exploit.

the eula is not a blanket u can cling to every time u dont get your way so stop trying to use it as one. its a legal doc created by the developer to protect there code. the rules of conduct are to protect u the gamer form getting harassed so u dont sue soe for mental anguish cause some punk was calling u racial names, not to get u into dwb or get abilities u dont like nerfed, if it was what u wish it was then why havent the players been banned, soe has the right to legally respond if the eula is breached, i got banned for three months cause of an old group cheat with pets/droids, two weeks aftermy accountgot banned soe released a patch to fix it, so i got a laywer and got my account back. nothing i did was in violation of eula which is why i got my account back, but i still got banned. what about the ppls who use cloak and get u killed dwb? all that happens to them is they get kicked out of dwb or where ever. so no its not fair but its not violation of the eula, so deal with it! it will never be fair to everyone, but its ok, ITS JUST A GAME KID!!!

there are to many things in this game that are broken, like i said cloakis one but all u are doing is crying wolf/nerf. its old no one likes it and it needs to stop.

u are the one who is being slefish, help yourself, turn off the game and go outside.

DivNotDed
Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:56 pm
#109



Kurso wrote:


Because you are NOT TALKING ABOUT SPECIFIC BEHAVIOR. You are talking about nerfing an entire community to solve the problem of a few players, probably not even on my server.

Most of the people using cloak are rebels on my server, and I'm anything but that. I still say that the power should stay where it is. It makes things more interesting to fight those opponents and I don't need to nerf them to enjoy them as opponents.

The same argument you espouse was what got ATSTs nerfed the first time. I never once even visited the krayt graveyard and my ATSTs were nerfed because of whiners griping about a very small percentage of the playerbase doing that.

How about this, REMOVE the DWB. That would solve the problem.

Fivo Asia



So if a game mechanic is broken but does not directly effect you you don't want it fixed? Thats pretty selfish.



What is broken? That is the fault of your argument. The player is training. AND ANYONE CAN TRAIN aggro on you. The fact that they are cloaked is where you are asking for the nerf. Start arguing for the banning of the player that is training instead of the nerf to a skill that is not broken. Again you don't like it so nerf it. The demise of so much in our community is based on arguments like this. I changed the title of the post going forward.



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Wimpanzee
Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:09 am
#110

easy fix, that would be fair (and better suited, i think):

make cloak not work against droids...it clouds minds...even droid brains? with sensor inputs?...




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antares_Kauri
Wed Aug 31, 2005 6:55 am
#111

From What's on Deck:

Misc.
  • Death Watch Bunker: Fixed an issue where multiple Super Battle Droids could be spawned by repeatedly looting a chest.


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starcrusher04
Wed Aug 31, 2005 6:59 am
#112

problem solved. nothing more to see here. move along.



lol. actually it sucks that people are doing this. but it's a problem like the aukan caves. eventually, there going to nerf that chest and make whatever is in it drop off of sbd's or black sun mobs.



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TheLastV8
Sun Sep 04, 2005 4:54 pm
#113

But that would involve a CSR doing there job. That is quite rare these days.



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