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Thread: Would you give up your Jedi for the sake of the game? Results: 66 NO 40 YES

mauvros
Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:13 am
#105






DocSavag wrote:





mauvros wrote:





Goarev wrote:
holocrons were a mistake (I might not of unlocked if they didn't put them in to be honest lol)






They sure were. They were the first mistake in a long list of mistakes. After the Holo's it went all downhill along with the subscribers. Ironic isnt it? They made Jedi easy as pie to get and now they have less subscribers than they had when no one knew how to become Jedi. Hmmmmmmmmmm...








Number of Jedi who unlocked before the first Holocron: 0




Hmmm.. I guess your right. Your point?


The only reason Holo's were needed because it was the most moronic implimentation of getting Jedi that no player could possibly imagine that unlocking professions was the key to Jedi.





rebellious_imp
Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:15 am
#106






Turd_Ferguson523 wrote:
Doesn't surprise me in the least that these people can't see past themselves for the betterment of the rest of the game.




the "betterment" of the game is that SOE keeps making money.


peoplecomplain of how the game has gone to hell and jedi this and jedi that yet for some reason you still pay those 15/month instead of canceling your accounts.


If you want to make a stand delete your jedi cancel all your accounts and prove to SOE you mean business, otherwise they have you in the palm of their hand.


They realize your unhappy but yet you still pay for your accounts even though your unhappy.


Why should they do anything.


If you want the game to start over with a new system, get more than 50% of the playerbase to cancel their accounts and and boycott sony.


2 things can happen, the game dies and SOE moves on to it's next creation(which is what would probably happen) or they do what you want.






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Angamarth
Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:18 am
#107

Actually, people were already working towards that. There was a list of a bunch of things listed by Q-3PO as qualifications for 'beating the game.' One of those was 'play every profession.' People were using that list as a blueprint of whatto do to get Jedi. The problem is, without confirmation most people wouldn't change their character away from what they liked just for the sakeof experimentation.


The die-hard 'I am going to get Jedi at all cost' players were already doing professions. Confirmation of the method just made them find ways to grind it faster.




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Turd_Ferguson523
Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:20 am
#108



Angamarth wrote:


Turd_Ferguson523 wrote:
Doesn't surprise me in the least that these people can't see past themselves for the betterment of the rest of the game.


A blanket statement, with no facts. How exactly would the game be better?





Wouldn't matter how many facts I could post here. People would shoot them down with rediculousness anyways. Logic and reason do not flow freely here. If you are oblivious to how much better off this game would be without 90% of the Jedi in game and you really need me to break, what should be obvious down to you, I have plenty of time this evening at work. Get ready to read.



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Turd_Ferguson523
Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:22 am
#109



rebellious_imp wrote:


Turd_Ferguson523 wrote:
Doesn't surprise me in the least that these people can't see past themselves for the betterment of the rest of the game.

the "betterment" of the game is that SOE keeps making money.

people complain of how the game has gone to hell and jedi this and jedi that yet for some reason you still pay those 15/month instead of canceling your accounts.

If you want to make a stand delete your jedi cancel all your accounts and prove to SOE you mean business, otherwise they have you in the palm of their hand.

They realize your unhappy but yet you still pay for your accounts even though your unhappy.

Why should they do anything.

If you want the game to start over with a new system, get more than 50% of the playerbase to cancel their accounts and and boycott sony.

2 things can happen, the game dies and SOE moves on to it's next creation(which is what would probably happen) or they do what you want.






I must have missed it. Did it say somewhere, do one or the other? I never once said I couldn't survive in the current environment. I just believe that it would be much better off that way. I'm not boycotting anything, I still love this game. I just hate the 'me, me, me' attitude that is so readily accompanied with this profession now.



Makiino
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trajen2
Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:23 am
#110

no





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jugs
Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:25 am
#111

No cos they've had ample time to get it right and after 2 years.....we still wait.

Everitt_Cage
Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:25 am
#112






mauvros wrote:


























This Jedi would be everything you wished for. He would be powerful and rare.





Stopped reading there. Why? To make it COMPLETELY unkown how to get a Jedi, would be impossible. The old way was "unkown", as in you didnt know what proffessions you had to do, but the WAY itself was by grinding proffessions, so it really was known how to become one. For it to be COMPLETELY unknown, it would to be COMPLETELY different for EVERYONE. That means, for one person, it would be learning a certain skill, for another doing a certain mission, for another using a certain special attack, for another doing some other completely random game function. That would be impossible for the devs to impilment. That being the case, once people start do start unlocking they would be able to piece 2gether what they did and it wouldnt be a secret. Finaly, here is where my disagreement w/ you statement comes in: if someone is playing this game JUST to become a Jedi(and there are a LOT of people like that), then it will NOT be rare.


That being the case, 2 answer the question in your OP: no.

Message Edited by Everitt_Cage on 09-29-2005 11:27 AM

Angamarth
Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:28 am
#113

I see... the opinions of other people are 'rediculousness' and your opinions are 'fact.'


You're right, logic and reason do not flow freely here, what flows instead are people throwing the 'timeline' argument about when SOE and LucasArts have stated that they chose fun over continuity. What flows here are various versions of, "Delete every Jedi but mine and then bump up my power level because I will be so rare."


Fact:SOE and LucasArts are businesses that are here to make money. Fact: Jedi is iconic to the Star Wars Universe. Fact: A majority of fans want to have Jedi characters. Fact:SOE and LucasArts market the game based on the ability to play Jedi. Fact: A great many players would quit if there was aslim chance of getting a Jedi character. What do you think is good for the game?





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iskareot
Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:32 am
#114






Angamarth wrote:





Goarev wrote:

delete all post 9 jedi muahahahahaha. That'll shut you whiners up




Delete all pre-9 Jedi so they stop living in the past.






See the real issue here is while sure we had out problems.. The best thing we can say is there is no debate at which time was better for Jedi ... you can't say that ... We had respect, honor and get this... some power to defend ourselves..


Hell, even you newer Jedi know that Jedi was in a much better place back then compared to now.. so while you may be jealous or mad at us... Oh man did we have it much better then you do now. (I just wish we embraced it better).. If we had known it would keep getting worse we may have never said one thing about a bug.


So the funny thing is that sure you can't live in the past but you can sure as Hell know that it was better then things are now... lol so you kinda lose on that subject that is for sure.





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rebellious_imp
Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:35 am
#115









Turd_Ferguson523 wrote:








rebellious_imp wrote:










Turd_Ferguson523 wrote:
Doesn't surprise me in the least that these people can't see past themselves for the betterment of the rest of the game.







the "betterment" of the game is that SOE keeps making money.



people complain of how the game has gone to hell and jedi this and jedi that yet for some reason you still pay those 15/month instead of canceling your accounts.



If you want to make a stand delete your jedi cancel all your accounts and prove to SOE you mean business, otherwise they have you in the palm of their hand.



They realize your unhappy but yet you still pay for your accounts even though your unhappy.



Why should they do anything.



If you want the game to start over with a new system, get more than 50% of the playerbase to cancel their accounts and and boycott sony.



2 things can happen, the game dies and SOE moves on to it's next creation(which is what would probably happen) or they do what you want.














I must have missed it. Did it say somewhere, do one or the other? I never once said I couldn't survive in the current environment. I just believe that it would be much better off that way. I'm not boycotting anything, I still love this game. I just hate the 'me, me, me' attitude that is so readily accompanied with this profession now.







i only responded because of the "betterment of the game " comment, to point out that the game is viewed differently by players and SOE.



We as the player view the game as a player, SOE views the game from a corporate america point of view.



From a player's perspectivelimited jedi seems like a great idea.



From SOE's perspective limiting the amount of jedi would be a disaster to their pocket.



Limited spots will mean after those spots are filled the chances of new customers are slim.



The chances of old players keeping their accounts active are slim.



Message Edited by rebellious_imp on 09-29-2005 08:37 AM



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CraZyAsSaSsiN
Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:39 am
#116

yes, but only if there is something in it for me

im a pre patch 9

if im just giving up my jedi for the hell of it. . then no



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Angamarth
Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:43 am
#117






iskareot wrote:





Angamarth wrote:





Goarev wrote:

delete all post 9 jedi muahahahahaha. That'll shut you whiners up




Delete all pre-9 Jedi so they stop living in the past.






See the real issue here is while sure we had out problems.. The best thing we can say is there is no debate at which time was better for Jedi ... you can't say that ... We had respect, honor and get this... some power to defend ourselves..


Hell, even you newer Jedi know that Jedi was in a much better place back then compared to now.. so while you may be jealous or mad at us... Oh man did we have it much better then you do now. (I just wish we embraced it better).. If we had known it would keep getting worse we may have never said one thing about a bug.


So the funny thing is that sure you can't live in the past but you can sure as Hell know that it was better then things are now... lol so you kinda lose on that subject that is for sure.







You're right, how could I possibly know anything about pre publish 9, I just have been playing since beta3, have three good friends who were lucky enough to unlock on less than 15 professions each, listened to them in guildchat and solo group chat, read the whinings on these same boards about the profession back then, and more importantly, still have those three friends in game talking about how they like the game better now than then. But then again, they aren't just sitting around posting about how good the good ol' days were, or crying when their favorite combination of skills/powers/buffs/foods gets changed.


So I guess I don't lose on the subject, I guess you're living in the past too.


(Edit: Just when did you unlock? By your own account, June, maybe a month before Pub 9? So, you mastered Jedi in a month or so, qualifying you as an expert on Pre-Pub 9? Guess Jedi wasn't so hard back then either, was it? Or do you really not know anything about it first hand either other than the grind?)

Message Edited by Angamarth on 09-29-2005 09:02 AM



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