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Thread: You are NOT entitled to be Ubber

Lorelai_Seabreeze
Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:49 pm
#105

I understood what you said, what your not understanding is that I and a great many others have not been able to prove or disprove it.
Your analgy about dice is a bit off the mark.
It would be more like a +1 longsword
1d8+1 with a cap at 8 so instead of getting a 1 as the lowest it would be 2




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Ihareo
Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:51 pm
#106






Lorelai_Seabreeze wrote:
I understood what you said, what your not understanding is that I and a great many others have not been able to prove or disprove it.
Your analgy about dice is a bit off the mark.
It would be more like a +1 longsword
1d8+1 with a cap at 8 so instead of getting a 1 as the lowest it would be 2





Oh good, a D&D person, that'll make this much easier!


Imagine the DMG treasure table, but with 1-50 being 'nothing'. Now Luck gives you a +30 to your d100, so you can still get nothing. You just have a better chance of getting somthing!



Now to make it more complicated, imagine that luck gives youbonus based on a sliding table rather than a streight +30. So if your party is CL1, you get a +1, but if your party is CL20, you get a +30. The bonus is not apparant with one roll, or even 5 rolls, but becoms more and more apparant as you lay the game (like a mild monty haul GM)


That's basically what it is here (as far as anyone can tell). The more people you have of a higher level, the better the bonus. By myself my loot is only very slightly better, but put me as the master looter (set on lottery but only I loot), and the difference becoms obvious over time.




Message Edited by Ihareo on 09-05-2005 03:56 PM




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Lorelai_Seabreeze
Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:52 pm
#107

Now you get into the law of avgs.
With a plus to the loot table over time you would see a difference.
Not everyone is seeing that.




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Ihareo
Mon Sep 05, 2005 4:02 pm
#108






Lorelai_Seabreeze wrote:
Now you get into the law of avgs.
With a plus to the loot table over time you would see a difference.
Not everyone is seeing that.





re read my post, I edited it.



You are very correct. But that's also my point when I say I don't think everyone is really looking.


Now it's JUST as possible that there are other factors in play, like maybe the length of time a character has been active. But honestly I don;t think so, because when we switched to other characters that had luck, but were younger than me, we got the same results.


However somthing that is entirely possible is that there is a modufier based on how often the luck wielder loots. I said before that it becoms apparant over time, what COULD be happening is that there's a sort of momentum equation that makes it more effective when the user loots concistantly.








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Mullet-MAN
Mon Sep 05, 2005 4:33 pm
#109






Sandsifter wrote:

Im so sick of the whining about the lack of flawless / premium pearl drops. Where does it say in this game that everyone is entitled to them ? Where does it say everyone should be equal ?


The main problem isnt lack of drops, its the younger generations belief system. I am thoroughly versed in how they think having done extensive market research and focus groups on this generation since they started spending money. They believe that they are entitled to everything. Its their right to win at everything and have everything. The problem is they dont understand that only effort equals reward. Somewhere down the line when mommy and daddy gave them one too many gifts for getting C's on their report card they assumed this misconception.


So let me fix this misconception for you...


You are not entitled to rule every game. In fact in mmorpgs only a small few, maybe 1% ever get that elite sword or super rare armor piece. Jedi are no different. There will and should be some that simply will always beat you.


Effort equals reward. Just like in real life folks, effort means small or big rewards. In the case of SWG, if one started playing since launch and worked hard grinding and hunting those nasty krayts they obviously deserve to rock. Lets not forget how difficult krayts were back then, sometimes taking 45 minutes to take one down with no guarantee of a pearl drop (or a good tune for that matter). These jedi have been playing the game longer, and therefore SHOULD be better. They put the time and energy in. They worked harder than post-cu jedi plain and simple. And like life, they are better because of it.


Not every part of a mmorpg must be perfectly balanced between professions. Sure the devs try and make things within reason but gear will always set some apart. Jedi are the same, some will get better skill tapes and pearls.


If you really want to play a generic watered down mmorpg where everyone is the same and nice and balanced equally then may I suggest trying World of Warcraft. Over there a level 60 warlock is equal to every other level 60 warlock. This is the beauty of SWG, effort matters and can set you apart from the rest....Just like life.






Sorry bud, your whole post is BS because of this contradiction ....effort = reward and playing longer = better. The point is that premium pearls do not drop now and effort to get them is out of wack. How about the mentality that I was first so should be better, this seems more of a problem on these boards. I could care less about the flawless premium issue , but the attitude I have a problem with

Message Edited by Mullet-MAN on 09-05-2005 04:43 PM




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SWG an empire divided... 60$ X2 120$
Jump to Light speed ........30$ X 2 60$
Rage of the Wookies....... 30$ X 2 60 $
Trials of Obi Wan ............ 30$ X 1 30$ (not 2 because of impending doom)

Paying 1,170$ and spending 1000+ hrs developing charectors and gathering items only to be told go f--- yourself .......Priceless
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Arakon197
Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:04 pm
#110

shutup!!! you know that stuff that comes out of butts? eat it!



- I support the slaughter of Bounty Hunters who hunt grinding Jedi You can too
master_finesse
Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:59 am
#111

Pls give me a break from all the whining. I have been grinding jedi for a little while now and I try to keep off the terms. I try not have my aura macro running in front of 50 people but sometimes I forget. I love the BH aspect of the game and don't care about it. You win some you loose some. No big deal. Stop being so scared of BH and play the game. So you loose a little XP. About 2 hours worth. You just get to play more to get it back.


I do feel sorry for some jedi who constantly get hunted but maybe there is a reason for it.
Darkvenegence
Tue Sep 06, 2005 12:01 pm
#112






Tiimmyyy wrote:
I will never understand why people afk grind. it ruins the game experiance IMO.






ummmm nice sig you got there,i wonder where you could have possibly got that






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