Jedi Archive
Thread: TH & Tiggs, Please Read Visibility Griefing
Swg-Addict wrote:
Another things is very important, like seen in the so far postings. One of the most arguments here is:
"You can regrind the XP loss in "
So, when the XP loss is no issue at all, why is it still ingame ?!
Wouldnt it be "cool" if the XP loss is removed and NOONE cares about dying anymore ?
So far, all the threads here complaining about viz, BHs, force PvP etc etc etc are in 98% about the XP loss in the result.
Why not removing it and ending all of the pain, whinings, pita, hatred etc ?
When XP loss is no issue anymore, Jedi/BH relation dont need to hate each other anymore.
Fight...run, clone, whatever: No hard feelings (cuz no penality), mature acting blablablabla.
And the "help me getting 225K" exploit is also easy to fix (see my sig)
It's a vaild question. When the CURB first came out, I said flat out drop BH missions if Jedi is going to remain as is.
Now that I've had time to cool down from being nerfed to oblivion, I hope that the FRS gives Jedi the Power back. If it does, that would be a valid reason to make sure grinding Jedi still has some challange. Can you imagine the AFK grinders if BH missions were eliminated? But besides that I'm just hoping that Jedi gets fixed and upgraded in the FRS.
The more people ask for things to get easier the more unlikely this is going to happen. That's why I refuse to endorse any type of dumbing down the system further until we know what the FRS is going to bring.
There is no need to change the system. You can't in no way prove that BH or anyone for that matter is purposely causing you vis (even if they are).
Asking for this kind of stupid change will cause further Nerfs to this already gimped discipline. If you feel you are being harrassed then simply report it to a CSR and let them deal with it. Just please dont call for any changes that will further hurt us.
Personally I don't care...I'll kill the BH and the bike he rides in on, right in front of the person griefing me.
Then I'll say "Thanks for the PvP, want to get anyone else killed?".
Of course I'm pre-curb...finished temp...and have decent pvp skills...
Dian-Wei wrote:Personally I don't care...I'll kill the BH and the bike he rides in on, right in front of the person griefing me.
Then I'll say "Thanks for the PvP, want to get anyone else killed?".
Of course I'm pre-curb...finished temp...and have decent pvp skills...
Heh I love to decloak in front of them ask them can I help them, then let them strike then knock them down and send them packing I never look for the fight they come to me. Now what might keep me cloaked is if they Gave BH's group Bounties again that would be scarey with out lack of power *shudder* Especiall with teh cloak change if it goes through I will be one hurting girl.
Message Edited by furlock1 on 10-04-2005 03:07 PM
I am talking about game play not EU....but go ahead...if you get your ingame kicks and want to purposely follow people around to give them vis have at it...
furlock1 wrote:
TheCapn2000 wrote:
TrogdorrtheBurninator wrote:
it's not abuse you moron... it's a system so BH can hunt jedi... and it is the way it was intended
calling people morons just points to your own maturity level or lack thereof...It was not intended for a BH or any other toon to purposely follow around jedi players to give them visibility...
In what world did you get that thought? Perhaps Neverland come on, think about it you are Jedi use your head not the sabre. For oh about 15 thousand years Bounty hunters have been hunting Jedi, gawd the intelligence seems to affect us, perhaps difusses as the Jedi increase.
Message Edited by furlock1 on 10-04-2005 03:04 PM
TheCapn2000 wrote:
I am talking about game play not EU....but go ahead...if you get your ingame kicks and want to purposely follow people around to give them vis have at it...
furlock1 wrote:
TheCapn2000 wrote:
TrogdorrtheBurninator wrote:
it's not abuse you moron... it's a system so BH can hunt jedi... and it is the way it was intended
calling people morons just points to your own maturity level or lack thereof...It was not intended for a BH or any other toon to purposely follow around jedi players to give them visibility...
In what world did you get that thought? Perhaps Neverland come on, think about it you are Jedi use your head not the sabre. For oh about 15 thousand years Bounty hunters have been hunting Jedi, gawd the intelligence seems to affect us, perhaps difusses as the Jedi increase.Message Edited by furlock1 on 10-04-2005 03:04 PM
Heh my fy kicks are going to some far off place and enjoying the virtual reality wilderness, god I wish I lived near a forest.
valdimor wrote:
If someone purposly follows you around JUST to give you viz...nothing more but to give YOU VIZ...if it's not greifing then its called being a &*$@# and a %$@* people who do this are tools in rl.
/pets the cute bothan.. "I wonder if I could make a bothan army."
Schadwe13 wrote:
furlock1 wrote:
Schadwe13 wrote:
KammaRocca wrote:
Schadwe13 wrote:
Here's one for you all. We did this the other day to a BH that was grief-vising us. He had us on /follow and went afk. We separated to find out who he was attached to. Once we found out who it was, that person took the BH for a "little trip" to the DJMs (or whatever they are) on the island next to the MO on Dant. Poof! Dead BH, and we continued with our grinding.
If you don't want visibility, don't grind on Dantooine of all places.
Go away, troll. You get these BH no matter when planet you're on. Had them on Tatooine and Dath. You'll find out when you've played a while. Some BH just go out of their way to look for grind groups on ANY planet to vis-grief.
vis-grief? Hmm new word wow. Visibility + Griefing, its not really Griefing so your definition is off, its more like Visilbilty + Harassing if anything, or could be Visibility + Awe, who knows but your using the wrong term.
Here ya go, Noob. Webster's definition of Grief:
n.
1. A source of deep mental anguish.
2. Annoyance or frustration. (eg. Trying to follow their directions was nothing but grief.)
I'm pretty sure it falls under #2. Time for you to go back to school, eh?
umm Grief is a word combining them does not make a word. By the way niether is noob, MR Old Timer.
TheCapn2000 wrote:
TrogdorrtheBurninator wrote:
it's not abuse you moron... it's a system so BH can hunt jedi... and it is the way it was intended
calling people morons just points to your own maturity level or lack thereof...It was not intended for a BH or any other toon to purposely follow around jedi players to give them visibility...
In what world did you get that thought? Perhaps Neverland come on, think about it you are Jedi use your head not the sabre. For oh about 15 thousand years Bounty hunters have been hunting Jedi, gawd the intelligence seems to affect us, perhaps difusses as the Jedi increase.
Message Edited by furlock1 on 10-04-2005 03:04 PM
Yenu wrote:This weekend while working on my crafter, my guild channel picked up a disturbing new trend. Apparently some BHs out there are actively seeking groups that are grinding with Jedi in them and justhanging out within visibility range. The Jedi players have two choices, either to stop their play session, or to gain visibility that the BH who's standing there can later use to hunt them.While this obviously qualifies as griefing (purposly disrupting another player's gameplay), it also brings up a serious flaw in the visibility system. To be balanced, BHs simply should not be able to generate visibility. There's no other class in the game that can basically create their own PVP targets, nor should there be. However, the flaw doesn't stop there. Even if BHs couldn't generate visibility, they could have their friends and alts do the same thing.What really needs to be done is a cap on how much visibility a player can give another player within a 24-hour period. This will still allow BH's to do their thing, but will limit the damage they can do. Given that we don't really know fully how visibility works, this may already be in place. If it is, excellent, and the BH's are wasting their time. If it isn't, it needs to be.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Well, there are many other places and planets you can go and grind. For some reason I can't find a group going to those places and jedi like to grind in places where everybody go. For example planet Endor, less npcs and more creatures equal to less visibility. No a lot of people go there too. Why in hell people go to places where bounty hunters will be waiting for you to show up? My visibility is low because I try not to grind in those populated areas but too bad I can't solo grind.
Yes, exactly I hunted there my entire grind and no visbility for me. I didn't see a BH until after my grind when I helped a friend kill Melachaei on the hills of Rori.