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Thread: No more rebel vs imperial jedi.... light vs dark faction
Corvett wrote:
Memnoch127 wrote:
pervel wrote:
Or C. Learn how to fight Jedi.
1 vs 1 this is possible but in large groups there isnt much you can do againt them THIS IS THE PROBLEM
Not everyone is a defense stacker with LS PSG with them.
The problem is you shoudl not be FORCED to have a certain templete if you expect to PvP its not right. Also incase you forgotten Defense stacker is going AWAY so what then??
Again incase you dont understand im not talking about 1 vs 1 play im talking 10 15 20 JEdi in groups
You are not forced to do anything so quit your whineing. Am I FORCED to go Doc because of CM'S or am I FORCED to go Ranged and kite away from that overpowered Powerhammer? No. I learn how to play the game. Jedi are supposed to be more powerful than a non- Jedi but any Melee Stacker or CM can take out a Jedi, yet a Doc/ranged can take out the melee stacker/CM. Learn how to play.
ok your not getting it.
10 jedi or more in packs will "pwn" any other counter you come up to it unless you yourself bring either Large groups of stackers (again going away) or you bring your own jedi to fight for you and you act as back up.
YEs i do know how to play ive been playing for many many many months.
To answer your questions are you FORCED to go doc because of CM's?
No your not you can get Doc resist buffs to Disease and poisons and a CM does not hit you everytime they are very weak with little tono defense. there is also plenty of clothing and all to also help you vs them.
Going ranged to get away with the power Hammer?? noty currently when you can have 90% composite armor its then just a matter of keeping the person intemidated watching food levels eating steak and healing if you have medic.
but again your thinking in 1 vs 1 im talking in groups, Groups is where the problem is, EVery proffession in this game as a few counters you can do with it even though im not a fan of DOT's and im glad there going away for the most part (other than CM i would imagine) there are ways to counter them.
Theres ways of countering KD + dizzy and all the other stuff but currently there is only 1 way to go against 1 Knight. and that way is being changed however i DO AGREE WITH YOU that nobody shold be able to solo 1 knight by themselves and its silly how Melee can do it now 1 vs 1.
Again this is not my argument (or my crying as you put it???) the problem i see is large packs of Jedi going around killing everyone. Mac you yourself are in such a group you cant tell me that in your 6 or 7 jedi group when going against regular PvP'rs that isnt a large pack of Melee stackers (going away) or another pack of jedi that you lose when you are rolling around in your jedi pack??
Also what happens when more people unlock?? what happens when your pack of 6 or 7 becomes 20+ Dark JEdi??? Who then will be able to counter that other than other jedi??
The problems of this have not reached kettemoor as much as of yet but im afraid its coming and will be very bad for all of us for the Jedi because the hate will continue to grow and for the non jedi because the majority of them will not wish to fight unless they have jedi with them.
Memnoch127 wrote:
Corvett wrote:
Memnoch127 wrote:
pervel wrote:
Or C. Learn how to fight Jedi.1 vs 1 this is possible but in large groups there isnt much you can do againt them THIS IS THE PROBLEMNot everyone is a defense stacker with LS PSG with them.The problem is you shoudl not be FORCED to have a certain templete if you expect to PvP its not right. Also incase you forgotten Defense stacker is going AWAY so what then??Again incase you dont understand im not talking about 1 vs 1 play im talking 10 15 20 JEdi in groups
You are not forced to do anything so quit your whineing. Am I FORCED to go Doc because of CM'S or am I FORCED to go Ranged and kite away from that overpowered Powerhammer? No. I learn how to play the game. Jedi are supposed to be more powerful than a non- Jedi but any Melee Stacker or CM can take out a Jedi, yet a Doc/ranged can take out the melee stacker/CM. Learn how to play.ok your not getting it.
10 jedi or more in packs will "pwn" any other counter you come up to it unless you yourself bring either Large groups of stackers (again going away) or you bring your own jedi to fight for you and you act as back up.
YEs i do know how to play ive been playing for many many many months.
To answer your questions are you FORCED to go doc because of CM's?
No your not you can get Doc resist buffs to Disease and poisons and a CM does not hit you everytime they are very weak with little tono defense. there is also plenty of clothing and all to also help you vs them.
Going ranged to get away with the power Hammer?? noty currently when you can have 90% composite armor its then just a matter of keeping the person intemidated watching food levels eating steak and healing if you have medic.
but again your thinking in 1 vs 1 im talking in groups, Groups is where the problem is, EVery proffession in this game as a few counters you can do with it even though im not a fan of DOT's and im glad there going away for the most part (other than CM i would imagine) there are ways to counter them.
Theres ways of countering KD + dizzy and all the other stuff but currently there is only 1 way to go against 1 Knight. and that way is being changed however i DO AGREE WITH YOU that nobody shold be able to solo 1 knight by themselves and its silly how Melee can do it now 1 vs 1.
Again this is not my argument (or my crying as you put it???) the problem i see is large packs of Jedi going around killing everyone. Mac you yourself are in such a group you cant tell me that in your 6 or 7 jedi group when going against regular PvP'rs that isnt a large pack of Melee stackers (going away) or another pack of jedi that you lose when you are rolling around in your jedi pack??
Also what happens when more people unlock?? what happens when your pack of 6 or 7 becomes 20+ Dark JEdi??? Who then will be able to counter that other than other jedi??
The problems of this have not reached kettemoor as much as of yet but im afraid its coming and will be very bad for all of us for the Jedi because the hate will continue to grow and for the non jedi because the majority of them will not wish to fight unless they have jedi with them.
I am spolied by our server. We dont have the large groups of Jedi running around and my group may consist of 5-6 DJK. Fortunately our server isn't like Bria and some of the others.
Memnoch127 wrote:
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
Memnoch127 wrote:
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
ReylandKrane wrote:
A Sith Lord and his Dark Apprentice, if you hit Knight just deal with the Perma-Overt, you don't like it, don't become a Knight.
QFE.
Don't like PVP, don't become a Jedi.
Don't like the idea of perma-overt, don't become a Knight.
Unfortunately, there is a segment of the population caught in the grips of entitlement syndrome who want all the good and none of the bad.
Think about it what would you do if you were not a jedi and wanted to be involved in the GCW and there are roaming packs of jedi that compeltly tear you up as soon as you go overt??
Probably either A. Not perticipate in the GCW until you were a jedi.
Or B. Leave the game.
You assume too much.
I'm not a Jedi.
I participate in the GCW.
Thanks for asking however.
Have you not seen the problem yet then if your not a jedi?? unless your on a very low populated server where it isnt overwehelming yet you maybe dont notice it.
Try going to other servers and try being overt there with anything other than defense stacker and see how long you last. perferbly pick the larger servers like bria.
Some servers the Knight ratio is rather still low however the PvP ratio of people is still rather low so you cant really put up a fair argument there since on a heavy populated server there might be 10 Knights to every 100 people vs a non populated server 1 knight to every 10 people. Maybe less knights there but still in large packs there currently isnt many ways to stop them other than a very large group of stackers/melee with a ton of DOT's and that to will be getting nerfed down in the CU the DOT's, so it will be no more stacking AND no more dots.
I'm on Corbantis. You tell me if it's an underpopulated server.
I'm not a defense stacker either.
It is the height of arrogance to assume that because someone doesn't agree with you they must just not understand.
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
I'm on Corbantis. You tell me if it's an underpopulated server.
I'm not a defense stacker either.
It is the height of arrogance to assume that because someone doesn't agree with you they must just not understand.
well as much as i do try to avoid throwing insults i guess fair is fair.
And it is the height of ignorance to not see what can happen 6 to 9 months down the road when more jedi unlock and it is just like servers like bria and others have already become.
But would you please share with me how you with a pack of 10 normal proffession (non stackers non anti decay kit PSG because those arent available to everyone) are able to stop a pack of lets say 6 Jedi knights??
The only way to currently do it is:
Melee stacker (going away openly stated by the devs)
Legendary weapons (if you got on man way to go)