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Thread: Weee... look at the damage being done to full temp jedi in these pictures.

XXCambriaXX
Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:49 am
#79


WookieOgre wrote:


XXCambriaXX wrote:
That weapons Energy.. Not Kenetic


That is not the only weapon on live is it



Man, Only Rifle That has good Kenetic is a Bowcaster, and You gotta be a woo..
Assault BowCaster: Same Stats as any reg Uber Rifle, Cept
its Kenetic Wookiee only can be up to 1345 dmg, only
Craftable by Wookie Weaponsmiths

Message Edited by XXCambriaXX on 10-13-2005 08:55 AM



Kom'rk tsad droten troch nyn ures aden, Dha werda verda a'den tratu.....

Cuy'vul dar Trattok'o!
Bah an be bure Du'kut duraanir, Ni ven hett gar ka'rtas...
Gar tyn vorer bure Gra'tya Cuun!
Pain is a great teacher for human beings,
The soul grows under the breath of pain,
To be human is to have the freedom to control one's fate.

-Shadow'Cloak-
WookieOgre
Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:02 am
#80






XXCambriaXX wrote:




WookieOgre wrote:





XXCambriaXX wrote:
That weapons Energy.. Not Kenetic




That is not the only weapon on live is it





Man, Only Rifle That has good Kenetic is a Bowcaster, and You gotta be a woo..
Assault BowCaster: Same Stats as any reg Uber Rifle, Cept
its Kenetic Wookiee only can be up to 1345 dmg, only
Craftable by Wookie Weaponsmiths

Message Edited by XXCambriaXX on 10-13-2005 08:55 AM




Here is perfect example of how a looted Rifle can be killer in PvP:



LD-1

Combat Level Requried: 50

Damage Type: Kinetic

Attack Speed: 2.5

Damage: 458-935

Accuracy Bonus: 0

Wound: 0.9%

Estimated Base DPS: 274.4/sec

SAC: 95


Yes, SAC is high but guess what it's still lower than every Saber. With an 8% damage slice you get:


494-971


With a 34% damage PU that goes to 662-1139.


Now you might say it's slow, well yeah modified I believe will get down to 1.5 speed but then again when you are talking about 1 hit incaps what the hell does it really matter. Look at the min damage of that gun after enhancements and tell me again if you think there is no good Kinetic Rifle.
XXCambriaXX
Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:07 am
#81



WookieOgre wrote:


XXCambriaXX wrote:

WookieOgre wrote:


XXCambriaXX wrote:
That weapons Energy.. Not Kenetic


That is not the only weapon on live is it



Man, Only Rifle That has good Kenetic is a Bowcaster, and You gotta be a woo..
Assault BowCaster: Same Stats as any reg Uber Rifle, Cept
its Kenetic Wookiee only can be up to 1345 dmg, only
Craftable by Wookie Weaponsmiths

Message Edited by XXCambriaXX on 10-13-2005 08:55 AM



Here is perfect example of how a looted Rifle can be killer in PvP:
LD-1
Combat Level Requried: 50
Damage Type: Kinetic
Attack Speed: 2.5
Damage: 458-935
Accuracy Bonus: 0
Wound: 0.9%
Estimated Base DPS: 274.4/sec
SAC: 95
Yes, SAC is high but guess what it's still lower than every Saber. With an 8% damage slice you get:
494-971
With a 34% damage PU that goes to 662-1139.
Now you might say it's slow, well yeah modified I believe will get down to 1.5 speed but then again when you are talking about 1 hit incaps what the hell does it really matter. Look at the min damage of that gun after enhancements and tell me again if you think there is no good Kinetic Rifle.



feh, Didnt ya read? Anyone can do this, Sides Bowcasters can have 82 sac, 1345 dmg, 1.4 speed. LD-1s are a thing of the past. if the jedi has an SL in the group and the Bh attacks then the paint-target/buffs would alloy him to triple cap him in a matter of seconds YES! your right! BUT! You know what happens after the SL is killed? Buffs all vanish. and the profession makes them basic targets from some of those enhancements.



Kom'rk tsad droten troch nyn ures aden, Dha werda verda a'den tratu.....

Cuy'vul dar Trattok'o!
Bah an be bure Du'kut duraanir, Ni ven hett gar ka'rtas...
Gar tyn vorer bure Gra'tya Cuun!
Pain is a great teacher for human beings,
The soul grows under the breath of pain,
To be human is to have the freedom to control one's fate.

-Shadow'Cloak-
JespataGun
Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:07 am
#82

Ok -- let's stay focused here.. this is not about specific weapons it's about total damage output using specials. ( If this goes live, PVP will become realy boring -- one hit incaps, every time ?? )

Where's the fun in going around and whoever gets the first hit in wins? ( 4-6K damage per hit = instant incap )

DEVS -- please answer this.... and for the love of God ... don't allow this to go live



Unless your an employee of SOE -- your opinion does not count !

Thanks John S. for the lies...
Thanks DEV team for the promises so unkept...

RIP Jespata : Born: Dec 2003 , Died ( aka canceled) Nov. 30, 2005
XXCambriaXX
Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:09 am
#83



JespataGun wrote:
Ok -- let's stay focused here.. this is not about specific weapons it's about total damage output using specials. ( If this goes live, PVP will become realy boring -- one hit incaps, every time ?? )

Where's the fun in going around and whoever gets the first hit in wins? ( 4-6K damage per hit = instant incap )

DEVS -- please answer this.... and for the love of God ... don't allow this to go live






I Kinda want it to go live....and kinda dont.. ya know?



Kom'rk tsad droten troch nyn ures aden, Dha werda verda a'den tratu.....

Cuy'vul dar Trattok'o!
Bah an be bure Du'kut duraanir, Ni ven hett gar ka'rtas...
Gar tyn vorer bure Gra'tya Cuun!
Pain is a great teacher for human beings,
The soul grows under the breath of pain,
To be human is to have the freedom to control one's fate.

-Shadow'Cloak-
JespataGun
Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:13 am
#84

One hit incaps will make this game more like space invaders than Star Wars

Message Edited by JespataGun on 10-13-2005 11:13 AM



Unless your an employee of SOE -- your opinion does not count !

Thanks John S. for the lies...
Thanks DEV team for the promises so unkept...

RIP Jespata : Born: Dec 2003 , Died ( aka canceled) Nov. 30, 2005
WookieOgre
Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:15 am
#85






XXCambriaXX wrote:

feh, Didnt ya read? Anyone can do this, Sides Bowcasters can have 82 sac, 1345 dmg, 1.4 speed. LD-1s are a thing of the past. if the jedi has an SL in the group and the Bh attacks then the paint-target/buffs would alloy him to triple cap him in a matter of seconds YES! your right! BUT! You know what happens after the SL is killed? Buffs all vanish. and the profession makes them basic targets from some of those enhancements.





You know I have no idea what you just said. Saying if a Jedi has a SL in group, NO I'm saying if a BH uses SL to onehit incap a player. What does Jedi having SL in group matter at that point?


This is unbalancing any way you cut it. I could live with it in real PvP but the whole Jedi/BH relationship is flat out dueling. All your arguments of regular group PvP are out the window. That's why it is not balanced.


Is it a shame that BH missions have to ruin it for everyone else but sorry I can't see how this is ever balanced when you are talking about one hit incaps on the opening move of dueling.
JespataGun
Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:19 am
#86

I will have to agree -- One hit incaps on ( 1 on 1 PVP ) -- no special SL along for the ride --- will kill this game and is COMPLETELY AND ENTIRELY UNBALANCED no matter what profession you are.



Unless your an employee of SOE -- your opinion does not count !

Thanks John S. for the lies...
Thanks DEV team for the promises so unkept...

RIP Jespata : Born: Dec 2003 , Died ( aka canceled) Nov. 30, 2005
XXCambriaXX
Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:21 am
#87

Im tired of hearing You Whine About BH Missions 1)
BH Missions keep your profession Rare 2)
No this will probably Be nerfed very soon 3)
learn Logic before talking to me like that 4)
No We Will not be able to 1 hit a jedi. 5)
Real JEDIS Have Defender. 6)
W/o Defender your Jedi Dies. 7)
SL Brings your acc way over your defence. 8)
But SL Can bring a jedis Defence Way up? 9)
both of these jedi/BH needing SL/ 10)
Stop Complaining about your profession 11)
Its not my fault you /or me are getting nerfed its
all teh negative feedback 12)

B
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T
A

F
O
R
U
M
S

R
T
A
R
D
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.........


sorry Couldnt resist that



Kom'rk tsad droten troch nyn ures aden, Dha werda verda a'den tratu.....

Cuy'vul dar Trattok'o!
Bah an be bure Du'kut duraanir, Ni ven hett gar ka'rtas...
Gar tyn vorer bure Gra'tya Cuun!
Pain is a great teacher for human beings,
The soul grows under the breath of pain,
To be human is to have the freedom to control one's fate.

-Shadow'Cloak-
JespataGun
Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:24 am
#88

Where did all that come from ?? The beta boards?



Unless your an employee of SOE -- your opinion does not count !

Thanks John S. for the lies...
Thanks DEV team for the promises so unkept...

RIP Jespata : Born: Dec 2003 , Died ( aka canceled) Nov. 30, 2005
Twilekku
Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:24 am
#89



XXCambriaXX wrote:
Im tired of hearing You Whine About BH Missions 1)
BH Missions keep your profession Rare 2)
No this will probably Be nerfed very soon 3)
learn Logic before talking to me like that 4)
No We Will not be able to 1 hit a jedi. 5)
Real JEDIS Have Defender. 6)
W/o Defender your Jedi Dies. 7)
SL Brings your acc way over your defence. 8)
But SL Can bring a jedis Defence Way up? 9)
both of these jedi/BH needing SL/ 10)
Stop Complaining about your profession 11)
Its not my fault you /or me are getting nerfed its
all teh negative feedback 12)

B
E
T
A

F
O
R
U
M
S

R
T
A
R
D
S

.........


sorry Couldnt resist that




learn to count kiddo 1)

dunno if your 6th or 7th point is the most insane one



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XXCambriaXX
Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:27 am
#90



Twilekku wrote:


XXCambriaXX wrote:
Im tired of hearing You Whine About BH Missions 1)
BH Missions keep your profession Rare 2)
No this will probably Be nerfed very soon 3)
learn Logic before talking to me like that 4)
No We Will not be able to 1 hit a jedi. 5)
Real JEDIS Have Defender. 6)
W/o Defender your Jedi Dies. 7)
SL Brings your acc way over your defence. 8)
But SL Can bring a jedis Defence Way up? 9)
both of these jedi/BH needing SL/ 10)
Stop Complaining about your profession 11)
Its not my fault you /or me are getting nerfed its
all teh negative feedback 12)

B
E
T
A

F
O
R
U
M
S

R
T
A
R
D
S

.........


sorry Couldnt resist that




learn to count kiddo 1)

dunno if your 6th or 7th point is the most insane one





Haha... I shoot jedi w/ snipershot for 7600 dmg w/o Mdef,
if I hit critical like he did. That was a Newb Jedi he shot, and knowone can deny that.



Kom'rk tsad droten troch nyn ures aden, Dha werda verda a'den tratu.....

Cuy'vul dar Trattok'o!
Bah an be bure Du'kut duraanir, Ni ven hett gar ka'rtas...
Gar tyn vorer bure Gra'tya Cuun!
Pain is a great teacher for human beings,
The soul grows under the breath of pain,
To be human is to have the freedom to control one's fate.

-Shadow'Cloak-
Twilekku
Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:29 am
#91

and if u think a jedi without defender isnt a real jedi i recommend u see a doctor, or reach teenie age ^^



Ip-e Id'Thoka
Heavy Duty Twi'lek
Pre SWG Jedi
SOErip offmeter.

The NGE isnt that bad i canbe Jedi![----------------------------|--] 2y Veteran Reward
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