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Thread: My Jedi on BETA vs two different BH's

danikka
Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:19 pm
#79


Well what's even more disurbing to me is this fact:


If they don't lower the stats on the looted weapons from Mustafar when it goes live, and stick with thenon-tradeable items deal...... that's basically forcing every player's hand to buy the expansion or they will be outgunned, outslashed, and outhammered when people start using those weapons in pvp..


just something to think about




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KammaRocca
Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:52 pm
#80

The new squad leader buff whinesounds like the Jedi equivalent of the base hiding whine. It's not that they can't do the same thing (since any declared player can enter any base), it's that it's too much work to do the same thing.





danikka wrote:


Well what's even more disurbing to me is this fact:


If they don't lower the stats on the looted weapons from Mustafar when it goes live, and stick with thenon-tradeable items deal...... that's basically forcing every player's hand to buy the expansion or they will be outgunned, outslashed, and outhammered when people start using those weapons in pvp..


just something to think about






Those overpowered looted weapons aren't as powerful as they look even if they do go live. My heavy lightning rifle currently is only about 15 DPS weaker than the rifle everybody's panicking about and and my SAC is nowhere near as high so I can already use more special attacks.




yurylightmist
Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:04 pm
#81

oh well. not much i can do about it
Darth_Sushi
Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:21 pm
#82

For what it's worth, I do understand and appreciateyour concerns. I have created a special focus thread over in the Squad Leader forum to discuss the impact of the upcoming Squad Leader enhancements on general PvP and the Bounty Hunter vs. Jedi conflict. You all can feel free to keep discussing it here, or you can move it over there. However, be advised that from here on out the focus threads in the Squad Leader forumare the only ones I'll be following and reporting on.






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thepulse
Sun Oct 16, 2005 11:08 pm
#83


great more good news! anytime you see correspondents from other profs posting you know where gonna get f**ked hard..


Look man frankly i dont really care what your defense is but the facts are jedi is borked and keeps on getting more borked. why are we even included in this game anymore just let us roam around in our little dead end world doing our little dead end thing.


I mean its crap enough we still have to deal with BHs now we gotta deal with another prof. guess they needed some place to throw ya guys since its been busted since launch might as well throw ya in the BH/Jedi mess since its such a great system..


Facts are everyone is tired of seing jedi and im tired of seing everyone else i hate the group grind i hate being forced to group with other profs that have skills that should be stricly used for theGCW and have no business in the Jedi vrs BH.


I see it now bring a SL for def and off buffs. bring a doc along,heal ya, bring a pike or swordsman to deal dmg and a rifleman for ranged attacks andthats just so my jedi can walk to the star port and not get waisted by some brutal artisan guy or dancer.


As a jedi i just want the dead end to stop! as a MBH i want to be able to pull other MBH for missions.. I killed jedi when they where jedi and id rather have a challenge now and kill other BHs




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GrievousAngel
Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:39 am
#84

This is actually a pretty simple test to run. Get a squad leader, jedi and bounty hunter together in one place. Group the SL and jedi, apply buffs. Have jedi and BH duel each other. Viola! Instant test! Have everyone review the combat logs and submit the proper information to the proper people and your done. Best if test is ran several times while fully documenting buffs used, shots used and the template of both the BH and the jedi. Still, not all that hard.



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DureenaBadKarma
Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:16 am
#85

SL's... the new AFK buff bots.. I can see it now



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Heruler
Mon Oct 17, 2005 3:03 am
#86

>

The process is as follows:

1-Unbalanced patch goes live

2-Jedi Forum goes insane, new threads end up on second page 20 seconds after posted.

3-DEVs, SOE, all ignore forums for a week or 2 for people to chill out a bit

4-Whatever got updated gets nerfed in the following weeks

-5 Anywhere from 3 to 5 weeks after patch went live, jedi return to flaming each other while BH add fuel to the fire (in other words, a normal day on the jedi forums)

So I wouldnt worry about it. Make sure you got some chips around and watch the show.





you forgot SOE make another months subscription of everyone while we wiat for it to be sorted

Swg-Addict
Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:36 am
#87






Ackehece wrote:

again for those of you who did not read darth sushi


[CUT...]

3) defensive buffs work wonders and a sl can grant them to a Jedi as easily as a BH


[CUT...]





Ok, time to wake up, lemme draw a situation for you:


1. BH pulls mission from term
2. BH identifys Jedi
3. BH gets SL buff (not important for now where, how etc - assume SL is grouped in range even for now)
4. BH is CM
5. BH is docbuffed



Your statement (above) is not practicable cuz it would assume the Jedi is "preventive" having a SL in group/tail which
keeps the Jedi permanent defensebuffed, which (of course) is far from every reality.


So its causing (finally) a situation that the BH (cause he IS preparing - cuz he knows when, where and how to strike)
is fully buffed with all buffs the game offers and the Jedi has the HUGE HUGE disadvantage to NOT have these defensebuffs
permanent on his toon.



So wazzup doc ? CU ? Balance ?
See where it is leading to AGAIN (sigh):
3467 diff. buffs ingame which the BH can make use of and the "poor mark" (aka Jedi) has to fight against this overwhelming
strikeforce with his crappy saber, wasting his force/action/mind to counter the first strike ... after he got chainsnared and spammed
to death anyway.


Forget it, this game is more then dead when this goes live, its easy to see, no matter what "pinktalk" is trying to draw it "its ok",
THE GAME IS DEAD WITH THESE CHANGES - and this is not only for Jedi/BH, its for ALL combat and PvP.


The SL will be a "needed buff ho.." in the groups in future (yep, i am Master SL on my alt too, dont get me wrong).
What was pre-Cu the dancer/musician/doc is post-Pub24/ToW the doc/SL/CM.


It is amazing, how SoE is leading themselfs "ad absurdum" in the same year even, the CU is sposed to better/balance all.


The ONLY really meaningfull workaround would be, that a BH loses ALL SL-bufs the moment, a "mark TEF (aka BH Tef) becomes
active, same for the Jedi.


IS THAT EASY ? ...yep..maybe TOO easy



Edit:

@Darth:
I just rereaded my posting and think, its sounding a bit rude/offensive.
I dont edit it but assure you its not meant this way. Im just majorly pi...with the way the game is going, its so sad to see that
the devteam is simply NOT able to get the game into a direction it needs to go.

All this cheap WoW-copying (have a look at WoW and see what they "adepted" here), but adepted poor, sloppy and not working right.
A million new things with P24 and ToW and i swear you, 80% not working, a million new bugs just continuing the endless list of
existing bugs, but not really ever going to be fixed anymore (except sometimes they delete our candes and battlefields).

Sorry if i sound demoralized/grouchy: I AM

Message Edited by Swg-Addict on 10-17-2005 01:46 PM



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JessieJames19
Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:05 am
#88


i can see what the corro's are saying

and i can see some of the Jedi beign naarrow minded also.


Not all Bh will have SL's attached to them

Same with Jedi.


Nerf to Jedi? not hardly. GCW non jedi can say they are getting nerfed cuz Jedi can have SL buffs.


i really want to know how powerful SL will make Jedi.



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