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Thread: If the Jedi Cloaks from ToOW were Wook only....

Daeges
Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:42 am
#79
would you use the +200 health item if it meant your action and mind regened slower?


Would you trade in a decrease in your mind/health regen for an increase in your health regen? How about terrain negotiation increase ? Speed increase? Look up the pre-cu stats, and you'll find wookies had a larger overall stat allocation of HAM and substats to any other species. We can play this game all day, but how about I score it as a vote for amorphous blobs.



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BOy2K
Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:45 am
#80

THEY CHANGED THE JEDI SYSTEM ON US!!!


LISTEN FOR CHRISTS SAKE!!!


my main was now forced into being my jedi instead of opening a 2nd charater slot like when i started my grind!!
so shut up about knowing the limits when i picked it!!





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Sorotia
Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:15 am
#81
to be honest i could care less im waiting for the frs then ill be happy wearing a djk robe
Rocksteady3
Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:23 am
#82




Daeges wrote:

would you use the +200 health item if it meant your action and mind regened slower?


Would you trade in a decrease in your mind/health regen for an increase in your health regen? How about terrain negotiation increase ? Speed increase? Look up the pre-cu stats, and you'll find wookies had a larger overall stat allocation of HAM and substats to any other species. We can play this game all day, but how about I score it as a vote for amorphous blobs.





Yes, let's look up those pre-cu stats seeing as how they have absolutely no bearing on the game right now. That's the brightest idea ever. The stats are way more balanced between the different species now, so playing this "pre-CU wookiees had such a huge advantage" game should end.


I'm willing to bet that over the course of a battle, your regen rates help you out way more than our extra health. Now, will you please share some of your cake... or did you eat it all?









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Daeges
Wed Nov 02, 2005 11:14 am
#83


Rocksteady3 wrote:




Daeges wrote:

would you use the +200 health item if it meant your action and mind regened slower?


Would you trade in a decrease in your mind/health regen for an increase in your health regen? How about terrain negotiation increase ? Speed increase? Look up the pre-cu stats, and you'll find wookies had a larger overall stat allocation of HAM and substats to any other species. We can play this game all day, but how about I score it as a vote for amorphous blobs.





Yes, let's look up those pre-cu stats seeing as how they have absolutely no bearing on the game right now. That's the brightest idea ever. The stats are way more balanced between the different species now, so playing this "pre-CU wookiees had such a huge advantage" game should end.


I'm willing to bet that over the course of a battle, your regen rates help you out way more than our extra health. Now, will you please share some of your cake... or did you eat it all?







just because you don't see the substats doesn't mean that they aren't there, and you allude to them in your reference to humans having a quicker mind regen rate. What makes y ou think that wookies, in addition to having more health, don't also regen health much quicker? What makes you think that wookies still aren't overall given more in terms of stats?


Since we're piling on, let's talk about what wookies also get:


Their own planet, complete with dozens of quests specifically tailored to them

Their own celebration

Enough items unique to their culture to fully decorate a large house so completely that you'll think you've stepped into the deep forest on Kashyyk.

Their own weapon: the bowcaster

Their own special abilities


When was the last time you attended a zabrak life day? Travelled to Mon Cal and done quests specific to their culture? Visited a home decorated in pure bothan decor? For that matter, visited a home with a single piece of bothan decor? Yes, you don't havea few thingsthat others have, but then, they have nearly none of what you have. I, for one, am glad they they not only gave us choices, but made those choices have some meaning with some differences.



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Onego
Wed Nov 02, 2005 11:19 am
#84
I say the easiest fix for this is to just completely remove wookies from the game. Who really needs them anyways?


(I'm only kidding, there must be something good about wookies....)
Punanisher
Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:23 pm
#85

Daeges wrote:
Rocksteady3 wrote:

Daeges wrote:
would you use the +200 health item if it meant your action and mind regened slower?
Would you trade in a decrease in your mind/health regen for an increase in your health regen? How about terrain negotiation increase ? Speed increase? Look up the pre-cu stats, and you'll find wookies had a larger overall stat allocation of HAM and substats to any other species. We can play this game all day, but how about I score it as a vote for amorphous blobs.


Yes, let's look up those pre-cu stats seeing as how they have absolutely no bearing on the game right now. That's the brightest idea ever. The stats are way more balanced between the different species now, so playing this "pre-CU wookiees had such a huge advantage" game should end.

I'm willing to bet that over the course of a battle, your regen rates help you out way more than our extra health. Now, will you please share some of your cake... or did you eat it all?



just because you don't see the substats doesn't mean that they aren't there, and you allude to them in your reference to humans having a quicker mind regen rate. What makes y ou think that wookies, in addition to having more health, don't also regen health much quicker? What makes you think that wookies still aren't overall given more in terms of stats?
Since we're piling on, let's talk about what wookies also get:
Their own planet, complete with dozens of quests specifically tailored to them
Their own celebration
Enough items unique to their culture to fully decorate a large house so completely that you'll think you've stepped into the deep forest on Kashyyk.
Their own weapon: the bowcaster
Their own special abilities
When was the last time you attended a zabrak life day? Travelled to Mon Cal and done quests specific to their culture? Visited a home decorated in pure bothan decor? For that matter, visited a home with a single piece of bothan decor? Yes, you don't havea few thingsthat others have, but then, they have nearly none of what you have. I, for one, am glad they they not only gave us choices, but made those choices have some meaning with some differences.





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Augrym
Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:36 pm
#86

I'm amazed by all the players here who are not supporting wookiees and Ithorians in this issue.


1. Storyline - no Jedi ever received bonus' from some stupid piece of clothing..duh and if they did you could make something that would fit any species. If you wanna be real picky how many damn cloaks does the storm lord have in his closet?


2. Respec your Race/live with your choice- could you be any more unintelligeable? When we chose our race we had no idea we would be getting the shaft on bio enhancements and loot specific clothing. SOE isn't doing this intentionally they are just dropping the ball and not completing the circle. FRS robes were wearable by all races...what does that tell you nubs.


3. Fairplay - SOE simply put has failed to be equitable and don't give me the Health bonus crap, you don't understand what they balanced if they did at all and 250 health is lame as an excuse. All races have a benefit this has nothing to do with that. What you people need to do is learn to compare apples to apples not decoration vs functional mods. This is just silly


Fact is SOE will always make these kind of mistakes and we only have one way of getting through to them so please help the community and hopefully help SOE improve the game for everyone.


Message Edited by Augrym on 11-02-2005 11:39 AM

Rocksteady3
Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:38 pm
#87




Augrym wrote:

I'm amazed by all the players here who are not supporting wookiees and Ithorians in this issue.


1. Storyline - no Jedi ever received bonus' from some stupid piece of clothing..duh and if they did you could make something that would fit any species. If you wanna be real picky how many damn cloaks does the storm lord have in his closet?


2. Respec your Race/live with your choice- could you be any more unintelligeable? When we chose our race we had no idea we would be getting the shaft on bio enhancements and loot specific clothing. SOE isn't doing this intentionally they are just dropping the ball and not completing the circle. FRS robes were wearable by all races...what does that tell you nubs.


3. Fairplay - SOE simply put has failed to be equitable and don't give me the Health bonus crap, you don't understand what they balanced if they did at all and 250 health is lame as an excuse. All races have a benefit this has nothing to do with that.


Fact is SOE will always make these kind of mistakes and we only have one way of getting through to them so please help the community and hopefully help SOE improve the game for everyone.






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Omanik
Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:56 pm
#88


Omanik wrote:


what does character stats have to do with being left out of loot...?






daeges wrote:




you mean: what does the difference in character's races as far as inate abilities have to do with the differences in character's races and available equipment? Well, they are both ....why bother. Cake anyone?





Yeah! thats what i was trying to say..


umm what?




Omanik
Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:29 am
#89


just because you don't see the substats doesn't mean that they aren't there, and you allude to them in your reference to humans having a quicker mind regen rate. What makes y ou think that wookies, in addition to having more health, don't also regen health much quicker? What makes you think that wookies still aren't overall given more in terms of stats?


What makes you think they are given more stats? because of a chart we can pull of Pre CU?


Since we're piling on, let's talk about what wookies also get:


Their own planet, complete with dozens of quests specifically tailored to them


This is not an advantage in our favor, every quest on kashyyyk can be done by any and every species...


Their own celebration


You can participate in this celebration too. Can you not?


Enough items unique to their culture to fully decorate a large house so completely that you'll think you've stepped into the deep forest on Kashyyk.


Can you not decorate your house with these items too?


Their own weapon: the bowcaster


Yes the wookiee bowcaster is species specific and all the other races were compensated low lvl rifles that do the exact if not close to the same DPS..So now lets put this in the jedi cloaks perspective since you like to get off topic... Wookiee bow caster can we used by wookiees only, in return everyone who cant use the bocaster because they are not wook gets rifles with a similar dps.. Jedi cloak can be worn by all other races except wooks and ithos... what do we get in reutrn? Nothing..


Their own special abilities


Are we the only race with inate abilities?


When was the last time you attended a zabrak life day? Travelled to Mon Cal and done quests specific to their culture? Visited a home decorated in pure bothan decor? For that matter, visited a home with a single piece of bothan decor? Yes, you don't havea few thingsthat others have, but then, they have nearly none of what you have. I, for one, am glad they they not only gave us choices, but made those choices have some meaning with some differences.


Why dont your try listing wookiee specific items that can only be used by wookiees and quests that can only be done as a wookiee... there are no wookiee only quests and the only items i can get that u cant use or get are the wookiee life day robe *has no stats* and the bowcaster *no different than all the other low lvl rifles out there* as for all the other races i would love to see their planets added... Why does everyone act like all the wookiees asked for kashyyyk and that they gave it to us and we should be happy with that! when there is not ONE quest that is wookiee only, nor are there any wookiee specific items! hell i would of liked to see Hoth over Kashyyyk... We are asking to wear the cloaks OR have an item made that we can wear with the same stasts! its not that hard of a concept! Why dont you try looking at it from another point of view...Here is my question to everyone that who disagrees with what rutigrr and i have said in both of our threads on thsi forum.. Would you have a problem with themconverting an item that we CAN already wear now to the same stats as the cloaks have? If no please tell me why. This is my main questiong because I feel we sholdnt be left out of the new jedi loot becasue we choose to be a wookiee way back when.. I understand that a cloak is made for certain species but that doenst mean we should be left out!


Message Edited by Omanik on 11-02-2005 01:26 PM

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