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Thread: Why should Jedi fight bounty hunters?

Esta
Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:34 pm
#79

I like to quest and look cool... not be harrassed, insulted, and forced upon by 12 year olds.

Wonder how long it will be until Jedi get the PVP switch to switch "off"?

Crimeny we ARE content for the BH's. That's the most stunningly simple, and accurate quote I've ever read.



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KeeferKman
Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:56 pm
#80






SlaineKhaos wrote:

This might or might not have been discussed before, but I don't know, so I'm posting it for me. I'm asking that because other than the thrill of the fight there's nothing in it for a Jedi.


If a bounty hunter dies he's got to lose a couple droids, couple foods, and half an hour. If they win they get money.


On the other hand, the Jedi gets nothing in case of victory and has a lot to lose in case of defeat. But then "l33t bh dat cnat spel rite" will start talking all sorts of trash: ie. ahahahaha u wuss lol u coward etc.


Sure there's gonna be the 25 bounty hunters that post here coming and telling me how I should stay off the terms, and how that's the price for being a Jedi, oppinion which I respected before, but when you have a level 60 padawan having to fight a level 80 bounty hunter, how can you tell them that? When you have a MBH/MCM after you dealing 1500 damage a second, how can you tell them that?


I hope I made some sense in this post. :/


Anyway, /rant off.


Thanks for reading.




Lolz...something aint right with your template if you take this kinda damage (oh yeah, maybe a level 60)...but your dead so quickly, does it really bother you?






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Qwad
Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:11 am
#81



Iakimo wrote:


SWG_Miriam wrote:
Also, the excuses that Jedi use to run away from bounty hunters are the EXACT reasons why bounty hunters have no problem DB'ing a Jedi who was incapped by a piket, or jumping a Jedi when they are attacking a lair, ... because most are no-skill-having newbs who would run at the first opportunity they have. So the best way to complete a mission is to strike Jedi in these underhanded scenarios.
It's a no-win situation for bounty hunters. If a bounty hunter waits for the Jedi to get ready for a fight, the Jedi force runs out of there and doesn't fight. If a bounty hunter doesn't wait for the Jedi to get ready for a fight and jumps the Jedi when he is attacking a lair, the bounty hunter gets called all sorts of obscene names saying he's a cheater or dishonorable.
There is nothing a Jedi wouldn't do to lie, cheat or steal. It's the reason I hunt the lot of them.


FYI, I've never fled a fight. Not even when I was a level-53 paddie at the low point of my combat-level bell curve between my old skill base and my Jedi skills. So I know there's at least one exception to your hasty generalization.





You must have been doing something wrong then, cuz I never dropped below level 69 doing my grind.





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trajen2
Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:13 am
#82






Iakimo wrote:





SWG_Miriam wrote:

Also, the excuses that Jedi use to run away from bounty hunters are the EXACT reasons why bounty hunters have no problem DB'ing a Jedi who was incapped by a piket, or jumping a Jedi when they are attacking a lair, ... because most are no-skill-having newbs who would run at the first opportunity they have. So the best way to complete a mission is to strike Jedi in these underhanded scenarios.


It's a no-win situation for bounty hunters. If a bounty hunter waits for the Jedi to get ready for a fight, the Jedi force runs out of there and doesn't fight. If a bounty hunter doesn't wait for the Jedi to get ready for a fight and jumps the Jedi when he is attacking a lair, the bounty hunter gets called all sorts of obscene names saying he's a cheater or dishonorable.


There is nothing a Jedi wouldn't do to lie, cheat or steal. It's the reason I hunt the lot of them.




FYI, I've never fled a fight. Not even when I was a level-53 paddie at the low point of my combat-level bell curve between my old skill base and my Jedi skills. So I know there's at least one exception to your hasty generalization.





I considera BH attacking while grinding or PvP annoying but in all honesty, they are doing their job well by gaining an advantage. . . its funny though that the two times i have died has been to the power of a dozen pikets, not the skill or power of the bh





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Ebonfire
Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:56 am
#83


I'm just wonder if we should move beyond the population control theme that so many people continue to use. A year ago when I became a Jedi they were still somewhat rare,and people were already months into the "Out of Control Jedi Population" argument. Now I don't think anyone can argue that there are not a lot of Jedi,but if these people (Jedi) are anything like me.. they would not playing had they not unlocked their Jedi character. Really they gave the majority what they wanted, and I think a lot of them continue to play. I'm sorry if there are people who live in such self-important little worlds that they think they can dictate what others can have or want.


There is no reason why an NPC should give visibility. The only thing that NPC visibility does is it acts as a deterrent to any mid-templateJedi from participating in game content. This kind of visibility does not keep Jedi in hiding, nor from using force powers in cities, and it really doesn't make it any harder to grind if your careful of what/when/where you grind. Remove all visibility from all NPC's.. with the exception of faction NPC's, and let the PVE Jedi live in peace.


That being said... I lost to my second BH, and have not lost since. Idon't run, but I've been tempted lately because its just becominga waste of time. You get some unexperienced BHs that last a minute, and then you get the good ones in armor break sliced, energy layered, adk'd RIS. They arecarrying weapons with all stats capped on creation, in full doctor buff from the afk doctor in the Kaadara starport, millions inskill tapes, CM enhancers, food & drinks....... and the fight drags for an upwards of an hour sometimes.


Yeah I win, but all I get is some combat rating, and an hours worth of wasted time everyday. No its not worth it.. my advice is run.




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vtg
Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:29 am
#84






SlaineKhaos wrote:

This might or might not have been discussed before, but I don't know, so I'm posting it for me. I'm asking that because other than the thrill of the fight there's nothing in it for a Jedi.


If a bounty hunter dies he's got to lose a couple droids, couple foods, and half an hour. If they win they get money.


On the other hand, the Jedi gets nothing in case of victory and has a lot to lose in case of defeat. But then "l33t bh dat cnat spel rite" will start talking all sorts of trash: ie. ahahahaha u wuss lol u coward etc.


Sure there's gonna be the 25 bounty hunters that post here coming and telling me how I should stay off the terms, and how that's the price for being a Jedi, oppinion which I respected before, but when you have a level 60 padawan having to fight a level 80 bounty hunter, how can you tell them that? When you have a MBH/MCM after you dealing 1500 damage a second, how can you tell them that?


I hope I made some sense in this post. :/


Anyway, /rant off.


Thanks for reading.





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REDLION78
Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:28 pm
#85






REDLION78 wrote:





Esta wrote:
I like to quest and look cool... not be harrassed, insulted, and forced upon by 12 year olds.

Wonder how long it will be until Jedi get the PVP switch to switch "off"?

Crimeny we ARE content for the BH's. That's the most stunningly simple, and accurate quote I've ever read.




Well I just like making Jedi stop what they are doing just so they can give little ole me their full attention. I like making Jedi dead...is that so wrong. You really are my content. You are my quest. It is my job to chase you and it is your job to run or die.




Is hitting a Jedi with a KD SHOT then running awayconsidered harrassment?

Message Edited by REDLION78 on 09-24-2005 12:30 AM

Uneshoof
Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:51 pm
#86


Since I wasa MBH pre-cu, and am a Jedi now, I'd like to make a comment.


Bounty Hunters should be able to hunt Jedi and other professions that are criminal in nature, such as Smugglers.The most famous bounty hunter in the movies was Boba Fett and his main target was Han Solo. Was Han a Jedi? In the movie I saw he wasn't. Though, I still think Jedi in this game should be BH targets because they are enemies of the Empire.


As far as the win/loss scenarios go, I think if a BH loses they should be "shamed." That's my way of sayingthat the BH should not be able to take anyBH missions for some certain amount of time, let's just saysomewhere between 3 days (length of mission in datapad)to 1 week. Or maybe instead of that let's say you fail a Smuggler PvP mission then you cna't hunt smugglers for a time, and same for Jedi, but you can still take regular BH missions against npc's. However, if after you are banned 1 time for failure, and you come off your ban and fail another Jedi or smuggler mission, so that's 2 in a row, you should get a ban from all BH terminals.


Doesn't that make sense?


Let'ssay you were a real life BH and you were contracted by some high end mob boss to kill someone, and failed. Do you think that mob boss is going to hire you again so soon? No.He'll probably use some other guys for awhile until he thinks you've gottengood enough to handle anotherjob. This goes with what I said about losing 1 time. You could still take NPC missions at this time.


If you keep going after criminals, and you keep losing, thenword will spread, through the underground Spynet Operatives, of your failure and no one will hire you.This goes along with what I said about constant failure and receiving a short ban from all BH missions, including NPC ones.


This type of a system will force MBH to be more careful about how many missions they take. It will alsohelp to decrease the number of constant active MBH due tot he recent population rise because it is now the best proffession in game.


I'm sure my idea has somw holes in it. I didn't really sit through and think out all the details. It's just a simple way I thought of for giving the MBH some type of penalty. What Jedi need is XP, and that's what we are losing. What MBH love is loot and money and this system would make them lose that.


Good idea or bad the devs will never do it.

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