Jedi Archive

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Oss_Wilum wrote:

i don't see why bringing back a person from an early death is the same as making them live forever.

and why wouldn't it be the same as force cpr? use the force to stimulate the heart to start beating again., if i were a jedi and there were a force thats how i'd do it. or maybe just use some electric shocks to /forcedefibrulate.

it doesn't need to have some bg quasi-spiritual connotation to it.

if a robot arm can bring you back to life, why can't you use the force the same way? i believe the descriptiono n the robot arm is just that it sends a big jolt of electricity to bring you back to life, seems like the same concept.

/forcerevive

see the healer put their hand 1 foot above the corpsified teammate, a few jolts of lightning, and presto changeo: "your grogginess will wear off momentarily"

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the point is that there are a few things which are taboo in the Star Wars world. Force resurrection is one of them, no matter how closely you try to relate it to CPR.

Anakin fell to the darkside because his pride led him to believe he could have power over death. In this game, in order to be revived, you must be a corpse. A Jedi reviving a corpse is off limits.

I'm sure that if a memo from SWG went across george lucas' desk with the words "new skill /forcerevive" on the top he would spend all of two seconds reading it before skyhooking it into the trash.

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dubiousmastax wrote:

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Shibi80 wrote:

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Progettista wrote:

You become a jedi to be a specific profession, not be a better version of everyone else. Jedi are focused on the force, not everyday convensions. Even anakin skywalker couldn't heal other jedi from death in the clone wars, why should you guys? You are self-taught weak jedi that do not have the power of big players. Once the FRS comes out again and your a master, even then you will not be as good as fisto or windu.

Main point: Jedi is one profession not all professions beefed up

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couldn't have said it better so.. QFE. Jedi should definitely NOT get buffs and rez. You want rez? Want some buffs? Get a doc or CM with you. I can't be a swordsman/doc/CM/rifleman/tkm/BH/dancer/weaponsmith, as useful as that would be, that's why there's other professions and this is a MULTI-PLAYER game.

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dude youre stupid! its been made clear to us by the devs that Jedi aren't a crafting profession so drop WS from your list =P

apparently the saber fairy puts a hilt under our pillow when our padawan braid falls out.

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dude! i'm not a dude nor stupid, and i actually picked a bunch of random professions... aside from doc and cm, which i put there deliberately for obvious reasons. are jedi dancers either? pfft. and craftin prof or not, y'all can still make your own weapons which is more than i can say for anyone besides... a weaponsmith.

Message Edited by Shibi80 on 10-09-2005 10:29 PM

/shrug

when a doctor defibrulates someone back to life, it isn't a miracle, and if a jedi were to do the same, it wouldn't be wrong imo, but w/e

I'd agree with you if you were right

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Shibi80 wrote:

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dubiousmastax wrote:

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Shibi80 wrote:

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Progettista wrote:

You become a jedi to be a specific profession, not be a better version of everyone else. Jedi are focused on the force, not everyday convensions. Even anakin skywalker couldn't heal other jedi from death in the clone wars, why should you guys? You are self-taught weak jedi that do not have the power of big players. Once the FRS comes out again and your a master, even then you will not be as good as fisto or windu.

Main point: Jedi is one profession not all professions beefed up

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couldn't have said it better so.. QFE. Jedi should definitely NOT get buffs and rez. You want rez? Want some buffs? Get a doc or CM with you. I can't be a swordsman/doc/CM/rifleman/tkm/BH/dancer/weaponsmith, as useful as that would be, that's why there's other professions and this is a MULTI-PLAYER game.

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dude youre stupid! its been made clear to us by the devs that Jedi aren't a crafting profession so drop WS from your list =P

apparently the saber fairy puts a hilt under our pillow when our padawan braid falls out.

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dude! i'm not a dude nor stupid, and i actually picked a bunch of random professions... aside from doc and cm, which i put there deliberately for obvious reasons. are jedi dancers either? pfft. and craftin prof or not, y'all can still make your own weapons which is more than i can say for anyone besides... a weaponsmith.

Message Edited by Shibi80 on 10-09-2005 10:29 PM

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lol I was just teasing you dudette

...I apologize for use of the word "dudette"

The point of healer is to HEAL, not buff. Why ppl think healer should get the abliity to buff is beyond me. The rez ability at master isn't a bad idea though.....

/sign

I'm not a Healer myself (beyond my 4000 dabble), so take this with a grain of salt. In a former SWG life I was a Master Doctor (pre-CU) and Master CM (post-CU).

My opinion is the Master Healer should be able to Rez and should be granted some defensive bonuses.

I'm not sure about Buffs, though. I think buffs should be the exclusive domain of Doctor and Enhancer.

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dubiousmastax wrote:

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Shibi80 wrote:

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dubiousmastax wrote:

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Shibi80 wrote:

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Progettista wrote:

You become a jedi to be a specific profession, not be a better version of everyone else. Jedi are focused on the force, not everyday convensions. Even anakin skywalker couldn't heal other jedi from death in the clone wars, why should you guys? You are self-taught weak jedi that do not have the power of big players. Once the FRS comes out again and your a master, even then you will not be as good as fisto or windu.

Main point: Jedi is one profession not all professions beefed up

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couldn't have said it better so.. QFE. Jedi should definitely NOT get buffs and rez. You want rez? Want some buffs? Get a doc or CM with you. I can't be a swordsman/doc/CM/rifleman/tkm/BH/dancer/weaponsmith, as useful as that would be, that's why there's other professions and this is a MULTI-PLAYER game.

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dude youre stupid! its been made clear to us by the devs that Jedi aren't a crafting profession so drop WS from your list =P

apparently the saber fairy puts a hilt under our pillow when our padawan braid falls out.

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dude! i'm not a dude nor stupid, and i actually picked a bunch of random professions... aside from doc and cm, which i put there deliberately for obvious reasons. are jedi dancers either? pfft. and craftin prof or not, y'all can still make your own weapons which is more than i can say for anyone besides... a weaponsmith.

Message Edited by Shibi80 on 10-09-2005 10:29 PM

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lol I was just teasing you dudette

...I apologize for use of the word "dudette"

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I know, the padawan braid comment kinda gave that away. However I'm in an argumentative mood. Why else would i be posting on the jedi forums?

Buffs have always been doc exclusive. Maybe healer should get force pool regen or max buffs. That would make me take another line of healer. Rez at master sure. I'd even go for another non master heal if youu couldnt do it while kd. As far as defensive mods go, doc costs alot more skill pts, therefor its earned.

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Progettista wrote:

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EAB wrote:

And finally, I doubt Anakin was a master healer

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Anakin is better jedi than anyone on any galaxy will be...he was raised in a temple you guys were raised with A)[pre-CU]Grenades or B)[CU]Spin groups

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Please do not generalize Progettista, I am a Pre-Cu jedi and I NEVER used grenades.

I have been in spin groups to get exp, but that was only about 10% of my exp gained as a jedi, the rest i got in regular groups.

/sign

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smallspider wrote:
Rez would make it very unbalanced. Jedihave the most defenses against damage than any other prof. Giving them rez would just make fights last for ever as he can just do nothing but go around and rez.

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But jedi also cannot wear armor. It's a proven fact that a Master Defender has less defence then a good suit of Battle armor(never mind Energy capped Recon). Yes master defenders have valor, Healer definatly needs some loving in this game. You can tell that by the simple fact that look at what professions 99% of jedi are.
I would say probably 70% of jedi are master defenders, 75% are master Sabers, 30-40% are Enhancers, 15% or so are powers. and probably only 2% are master healers.(i know these numbers dont' add up to 100%, that is because you can master both defender and sabers for example.)

Those would just be my estimates from what i've seen in combat