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Atobe

Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:01 am

CrashNgoBoom wrote:

So what about Sidious then? Isn't he older then all of them? (respectivly for age)

I don't think Sidious/Palpatine was 900 years old, whereas Yoda claimed to be that old, and also claimed to have been teaching the Force to others for 800 of those years.

"When 900 years old you reach, look as good you will not. Hrmph!" (or words to that effect, from Episode VI).

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trajen2

Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:03 am

#67

Mace seems to be more of a MLS/MD where as ObiWan is more of a MLS / ME / powers dabbler and light on the defenses. . .

In the end, Obi wan would win b/c he is more evasive rather than defensive

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CrashNgoBoom

Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:04 am

#68

That's why I said respectivly, everyone knows muppets live forever.

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Atobe

Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:05 am

#69

trajen2 wrote:

Mace seems to be more of a MLS/MD where as ObiWan is more of a MLS / ME / powers dabbler and light on the defenses. . .

In the end, Obi wan would win b/c he is more evasive rather than defensive

Obi shoudl've used the respec tokenhe got after the Jedi Revamp -- I mean, Jedi Purge.

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trajen2

Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:11 am

#70

Atobe wrote:

trajen2 wrote:

Mace seems to be more of a MLS/MD where as ObiWan is more of a MLS / ME / powers dabbler and light on the defenses. . .

In the end, Obi wan would win b/c he is more evasive rather than defensive

Obi shoudl've used the respec tokenhe got after the Jedi Revamp -- I mean, Jedi Purge.

bah! Obi wan was a non-defender dabbler . . .that's why he was alwasy getting incapped . . . He did VERY well withing a group but depended on evasion and speed when alone (reference: Jango Fett battle / Gen. Greivous) . . .

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cl0kwerq

Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:57 am

#71

didn't they have this is a what-if comics? I think it was "What if Obi-wan and Windu fought, and they sold the merchandise on e-bay to 3rd world drug-lords?"

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SeeruFlock

Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:32 pm

#72

Obi-Wan says "Why, i am but a master of Soresu, nothing compared to vaapad." To which Mace responds, " You are a master of a classic style where i have created a lethal style, when i fought Grievous he quickly adapted to my style, Master Kenobi i feel that you are the only one amongst us that can defeat grievous."

I think the above quotes explain alot. Mace's style tapped into the Darkside, Greivous was trained by Dooku a darkside practitioner. It was easy for Greivous to adapt to this style because this was something he probably was taught or at least had knowledge of but didn't practice because Dooku was his master. I think classic in a sense means older style. Im assuming at this time frame most jedi began to learn the more advanced forms of combat because of the increase of enemies the jedi had. I think Mace felt that because this was an older or more classic form, it would give Obi Wan the advantage due to the fact that Greivous probably learned the forms most common amongst jedi during that time.

Message Edited by krazyboy1973 on 09-28-2005 10:58 PM

Message Edited by krazyboy1973 on 09-28-2005 11:01 PM

The person you quote misquoted the book. It went along the lines of Obi wondering why him, and mace said because Obi's ls styledidn't have any weaknesses per se - Yoda's Ataro ls form was to compensate his age, Mace's Vaapad to appease his eagerness to fight which was Mace's weakness as told in Shatterpoint. Obi's Soresu is the bad-ass defense style (Improved Force Armor or master defender? I think Obi was MDef and Mace at least x4xx Enhancer - when Palps ls went out the window he took off IFA keeping only IFF on and thus got 1-shotted by Anakin's Pre-CU ls, then when incapped - see, no AI for Mace - got DB'ed by Palps).

Going on from there - Yoda/Mace/Obi/palp & co...

Obi and Yoda (would have) lost to Palps because they were using the traditional jedi powers/skills. The Sith had studied them and expanded their own knowledge for millenia and thats why Yoda got knocked out - that and his poor Terrain negotiation skill. Mace however used something close to the Dark Side - an entirely new ls fighting style the Sith had no knowledge of and I believe Palps got his ass honestly haded to him (Force Feedback 4tw!). However Palps bet heavily on Anakin's decision to do whatever it takes to save Padme. Palpatine was a mentor to Anakin and knew everything he needed to know about him to manipulate him. Anakin didnt choose Sith over Jedi - he chose Padme's life over Jedi. Ironically that choice is what later led to Padme's death.

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