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Thread: How am I ment to escape a BH now?
WaerbGloofin wrote:
Force Valor FTE! Shouldn't be able to snare if they miss. FR2 to escape.
Lol valor isnt that good
Maxil wrote:
every templete has a counter, and to MCM's it is SAP. It works really nicely, and with the upcoming changes (increased healing costs, as well as increased costs for applying the DOTS) They shouldn't last too long, already sap hurts 'em pretty hard.. My longest fight with a mcm is two hours, tho commonly it's about 20-30 minutes, that's the time needed to wear 'em down. Since I got sap, it's gone down to about 10-15.
this might work, but as it is now, most jedi cant hit them hard enought to make them heal often enought to drain their mind. i know i cant
killtheidealist wrote:
Maxil wrote:
every templete has a counter, and to MCM's it is SAP. It works really nicely, and with the upcoming changes (increased healing costs, as well as increased costs for applying the DOTS) They shouldn't last too long, already sap hurts 'em pretty hard.. My longest fight with a mcm is two hours, tho commonly it's about 20-30 minutes, that's the time needed to wear 'em down. Since I got sap, it's gone down to about 10-15.
this might work, but as it is now, most jedi cant hit them hard enought to make them heal often enought to drain their mind. i know i cant
Sap was good until they dropped the duration of it to 2 minutes also IF you ever get it to land, it miss's too much.
koldbones wrote:
killtheidealist wrote:
Maxil wrote:
every templete has a counter, and to MCM's it is SAP. It works really nicely, and with the upcoming changes (increased healing costs, as well as increased costs for applying the DOTS) They shouldn't last too long, already sap hurts 'em pretty hard.. My longest fight with a mcm is two hours, tho commonly it's about 20-30 minutes, that's the time needed to wear 'em down. Since I got sap, it's gone down to about 10-15.
this might work, but as it is now, most jedi cant hit them hard enought to make them heal often enought to drain their mind. i know i cant
Sap was good until they dropped the duration of it to 2 minutes also IF you ever get it to land, it miss's too much.
qfe
glim3mer wrote:
koldbones wrote:
Just had a run in with a cm just a few minutes ago and it makes me sick. My temp is mheal mdef saber 0304, havent got the last row in 2h. Its pathetic how they can heal and heal and heal and there insane mind regen. I can take his damage all day long and short of lag the wont out right kill me. Its the damn force regen, Iam running around watching my force bar go down and watching there mind regen totally. They should make mind regen on have the same regen rate as force and then lets see how it goes. It takes no skill to run a person around until they run out of force. This one today went through 2 full spice runs and kept comeing. Iam tired of it. Tired of the unending nerfs to us and the lifting of the bh. They kd me 8 out of 10 times and i get 1 kd in about 10 trys and iam a master defender. Rooting me and hitting me from 65 meters. Iam not whineing mind you even if it seems that way. Iam just tired of the unbalance the cu balance brought in. Give us something that will put our force regen in balance with the mind regen thats going on now, Sorry its late and iam just tired, almost a full temp and I cant take a cm/bh down.
I dont mind pvp at all but this cm crap is so unbalanced its not even funny, its not pvp its just a gank for us just about everytime they come for us unless youhave a pre cu saberand getting hit for 400 plus every shot and Iam doing 150 to 200 max when hes in range.. I dont see cm's running around in pvp tossing dots on everyone its just the bouty missions that we see it. Theres only one way that we can put a stop to this and thats everytime you get a bh on you run. Dont fight, dont trash talk just run. Get a ride out of the starport, stay combatant and find base. This bh crap makes it to the point that I cant enjoy pvp at all. Mind you I dont mind a good fight that I atleast ahve a chance to win, but with the cm's I ahve no chance, No ubber pearls or crystals, yes I ahve a 4th gen saber but thats it and now with the stuff there doing to cloak and the snare situation were screwed literally. Iam jsut venting and iam not looking for the idiots that crank out, learn your temp change your temp and all that other.
I want to be able to play WHAT i want NOt what the fotm isand enjoymyself and as it is I cant. I tried many diffrent temps out and I chose this one because I enjoyed being the healer and helping the group out. I guess ill just sit the vis out and grind my negative out and then finish my temp out.
Tiggs made a statement that there would be less jedi after the CU and she was correct, not because they were makeing it more difficult to get jedi but that they were going to nerf them down to the point of being less then a regualr elite profession, if you havent noticed that EVERY counter we use to a BH the devs put a nerf in to stop us from useing it and its getting old really fast....
Not to sound like a pesimist but with that template you are not in control of the fight. When I fight a BH, the BH is 5-10m at most from me all the time, they hardly get any attacks on me cause there every move is a heal. Yes my saber is not pre-CU but has pre-CU premiums, never the less. I have fought a BH with a 20 FC saber and 550 max damage saber for fun and it was same concept.
Stop freaking spamming infusion and maybe you can keep your mind up. Get some roots in your temp and maybe you can win. And you are pvping with CMs without improved armor break..... no comment.
Again FOTM is not a fashion statement, its a set of skills that permit you to over come and win over every other prof in the game. Yea me too I wish I was Master Powers and Master Healer and be able to beat CM's but its not going to happen.
If I were you, Id get some enhancer in there. But thats just me.
Are you really that dense? Let me see a fight runs for an hour or longer, you eat food it wears off you eat more food it wears off what next? your full> Also I DONT SPAM INFUSION.......The only time i heal is when i get half or less, as I stated in my post, they DONT kill me from there attacks .... as in bam bam your dead, they kill me from the endless chaseing and sucking my force out. It gets to the point of there is no more force and my mind is sucked down to nadda from useing stims, O did I not mention that I use stims also to CONSERVE force.......
Also what your telling me is that YOU have Pre-CU pearls and that you ARE FOTM, ok whats wrong with this, you have probely some of the best pearls in game so your damage is more then I could ever havewith present day pearls and sabers and your also the Flavor Of The Month template. I dont see where you really can ever critisize my post, you have NO idea how it is to be my jedi with the present pearls and such and you have no idea how I use my temp.
For one thing it should say alot that as a Mheal I last as long or longer then you MLS guys before I run out of force and that I DONT die to there alpha strikes or the battle. So that should tell you that I play my temp to just about the best its able to be done with what I have . Am I saying anything about root and snare? No its part of it and I deal with it, do I complain that I cant root or snare them, no I chose to go the temp I have, do I complain about dots and such that the cm combo has no its part of it.
What I dont like is there unending supply of mind and there ability to do constant damage to me and not have any effect on there pools or abilities and the fact that the mind crystals work for them and we can not take advantage of it ourselves
. If you fight a jedi 1v1 its going to be A) the one that does the most and fastest damage or B) the one that has the largest force pool and lasts. With CM's its neither, they can heal all the damage we deal out and they have no pool to deal with that has a 30 to 40 minute recharge rate.
I have played your FOTM and I CHOSE to go healer and before all this CM business I did ok with BH not a win everytime but it was a fight and I enjoyed it because there was a CHANCE for me to win, as it stands now, I have no chance unless its a lvl 60 bh. Also try being online early in the morning and all the bh pull your mission, lol now thats fun.
The thing about you stateing fotm is what works not a fashion statement, my idea.. and I might be wrong was that any combination of jedi should be 1.5 times better then any other prof... is that the case? No. Do BH have a chance with anything besides CM... Yes... Do present jedi have a chance with anything besides the fotm... VERY VERY VERY slim.
Message Edited by koldbones on 10-11-2005 01:01 PM
Oh, we are back to Pre-CU, with everyone running around in composite (it's RIS now) and having the very same skills? Never mind, if everybody is the same, it should be balanced!
I just can't believe this. They gonna make Jedi completely worthless? So we will paying money to log in, and wait BHs to kill us? Fightclubbing rewersed? Maybe the next step will be a permaroot and teleport to Kaadara at login, so the BHs can take us down without the smallest effort.
Gimme a break!
Gillik wrote:
Here may be an odd thought. Have you considered fighting the bh.
You miss the point. I'd fight a BH IF (and only IF) my abilities are working! If I have Forcerun, let me use it, and if I have FR3, which is a freakin' MASTER ability, don't let a novice skill cancel it!
Since a long, long time it's not about why aren't we uber, it's about why we have to accept making us completely unplayable... it's like making us NPCs, so the BHs can get money.
Damian-j wrote:If this Permansnare/FRNerf goes live you'll never get in range enough time to use Sap. A rifleman with ranged arms can snare you from 80M with his PUP'd LD-1 and Kite you to death, you'll never get within range to even attack him.
QFE
Geodan wrote:
Iawalein wrote:
With the best of Jedi skills limited at 32m you apparently aren't supposed to get away and you aren't supposed to win. You apparently aren't supposed to even be able to get a hit in. MLS has one attack that has a 32m range, enhance has suppression with 32m range (I think that stasis is 32m as well?) and force powers are 32m. A Bh with a rifle and two range arms can snare/root at 80m. There is absolutely NO way that we will EVER have a single hit with the chain snare/root days to come.
What the devs ought to do (assuming they do include this new snare ability) is to allow professions to only use the specials for which the weapon was originally designed. The problem with being able to mix and match professions to custom build the uber profession, is that you have rifles getting the benefit of pistol specials never designed to be used by a rifleman in the first place.
Just change to:
LS x4x4
Mdef
Enhancer 3xx4
Heal 42xx
It's a little boring but gets the job done.
And you can solo a cl 86 with ease + make you able to kill all MBH /mrifle/mpistoleer/carabineer/mcm clones.
ThereIsPassion wrote:
Just change to:
LS x4x4
Mdef
Enhancer 3xx4
Heal 42xx
It's a little boring but gets the job done.
And you can solo a cl 86 with ease + make you able to kill all MBH /mrifle/mpistoleer/carabineer/mcm clones.
Please explain.
Once again, since you'll never even get in range to attack the BH, I'd like to know how you plan on killing them.