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Thread: The future of Jedi and the rise of the New Jedi Order
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Timothy Leary's Dead i can only agree that you are a moron.
on adks anmd sabers. if a bh can adk his rifle, why cant i adk my saber?
if i have to adk every piece of my saber, then shouldnt a bh have to do the same, adk every piece before it is made??? only makes sense to me. they have already adked every piece of there 8000 energy resistant, 75 pct ab resistant armor.
i can only agree that you are a moron, or drunk.
Court-Jester wrote:
Realize this. Jedi is a PvP based profession. We are meant to be rare and extremely powerful. We are meant to be hunted and feared. Feel free to flame; however, you will just be justifying our own demise. There hasn’t been significant risk in the Jedi profession for quite some time. This is an attempt to get it back.
Whiney Jedi have lead to the downturn of this profession. We are not a PvE centric profession. We are not a ‘weekend warrior’ class. This was never meant to be ground out in a few weekends.
Nobody is going to cancel their game just to make you rare.
You are a refugee, not a soldier.
If you want to pvp, use your alt.
Same thing I said in the other thread. I was wondering when you would post. I knew going in that carebears like yourself would jump in here to champion the degradation of this profession and its continued decline in to obscurity.
MsNiL wrote:
Court-Jester wrote:
Realize this. Jedi is a PvP based profession. We are meant to be rare and extremely powerful. We are meant to be hunted and feared. Feel free to flame; however, you will just be justifying our own demise. There hasn’t been significant risk in the Jedi profession for quite some time. This is an attempt to get it back.
Whiney Jedi have lead to the downturn of this profession. We are not a PvE centric profession. We are not a ‘weekend warrior’ class. This was never meant to be ground out in a few weekends.
Nobody is going to cancel their game just to make you rare.
You are a refugee, not a soldier.
If you want to pvp, use your alt.
amen to the Bdiddy post! That's exactly how I feel man, I don't understand why so many players seemingly want to ruin other players abilities and fun.
The stupidest argument I hear is "there are other jedi games you can play"; indeed there are, if they are so wonderful, how come you put in the effort to get a jedi character in SWG? Clearly you wanted to be a jedi, in this game, so why would you expect the other games to satisfy somebody else's desire to be a jedi? Oops, here I go with all that logic, practicality and intelligence again! I forgot the forums were supposed to be devoid of that, please don't kick me SOE! I'll go watch the OC immediately and get this braincell count down, promise.
And please remember if you are an Uber jedi now, you are getting the benefit of your years of play , months and months of being 10X more powerful than the post CU jedi is game time, and that's what we all pay for in the end. Enjoy you time as elites, and if one day us post CUers get to join u as very powerful characters, you can fondly recall your time of total dominance, during which, we paid the same monthly fee as you.
MsNiL wrote:
Court-Jester wrote:
Realize this. Jedi is a PvP based profession. We are meant to be rare and extremely powerful. We are meant to be hunted and feared. Feel free to flame; however, you will just be justifying our own demise. There hasn’t been significant risk in the Jedi profession for quite some time. This is an attempt to get it back.
Whiney Jedi have lead to the downturn of this profession. We are not a PvE centric profession. We are not a ‘weekend warrior’ class. This was never meant to be ground out in a few weekends.
Nobody is going to cancel their game just to make you rare.
You are a refugee, not a soldier.
If you want to pvp, use your alt.
Nil this is the most ignorant post you have ever made (and that is saying alot).
Don't demean others for expressing what they want. If I played SWG in "Nils world" I would have quit along time ago.
I support this, amen brother. One thing I would be a little picky about is the 6 month cool down period, but if it's got to be done it's got to be done.
Court-Jester wrote:
New Jedi Order
We must get back to our origins if we are to survive as a viable and powerful class. Make no mistake, we are on a decline that is being helped along by those within our ranks. It is time to purge those that cannot live up to the high standards we should all hold ourselves to. It is time to begin anew.
We must begin to reinstitute risks back into our profession and we must do it now. Without RISK there is no REWARD.
Outlined below is how we can begin to champion our revival. We must all take one for the team if we ever want to regain our former glory. So, with that said...I propose the following.
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Instituted Saber Tefs
A. 5 minute timer
B. Anyone of the opposing faction can attack during the duration of the saber tef
- Rebels would be attackable by Imperials and Neutrals
- Imperials would be attackable by Rebels and Neutrals
- Neutrals would be attackable by Rebels and Imperials
C. Groups do not add to visibility (as it is today, however, it would be important to not group with others if they are not of the same faction)
D. What generates a saber tef?
-Any combat action involving force powers
1. Powers
2. Saber
3. Jedi crowd controls (ala debuffs, snares, roots, etc)
-Any non-combat action involving force powers
1. Healing
2. Enhancing
- Any activating/equipping or un-equipping of Jedi items
1. Robes
2. Sabers
3. New Cloaks
Bring back and adjust Cloning penalties and Bounty Hunter death penalties
A. Make it 200k per clone per lvl within Jedi
- 0 skill points to 89 skill points 200k
- 90 skill points to 178 skill points 400k
- 179 kill points to 226 skill points 600k
B. Tier Bounty Hunter Deaths appropriate to Jedi skill lvl
- 1000 per skill point at or below 40 skill points invested
- 2000 per skill point at or below 80 skill points invested
- 3000 per skill point at or below 120 skill points invested
- 4000 per skill point at or below 160 skill points invested
- 5000 per skill point above 161 skill points invested
1. Bring back Terminals showing names
2. Allow grouping to take on Jedi again
Institute skill loss again
A. Make skill loss effect Jedi based on negative experience
- At negative 2 million 1 Box lost (Jedi’s Choice)
- At negative 4 million 1 Box lost (Jedi’s Choice)
- At negative 6 million 1 Box lost (Jedi’s Choice)
- At negative 8 million 1 Box lost (Jedi’s Choice)
- At negative 10 million 1 Box lost (Jedi’s Choice and cap hit)
Experience Caps
A. Adjust positive cap to 10 million
B. Keep negative cap at 10 million
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When all of these are instituted, give a 6 month cool down before our power is beefed up. This should begin to shelve and clean out the Jedi population and allow us to regain our former glory. In addition to this, there will be no removal of us from the Galactic Civil War and any additional power doesn’t necessarily need to translate into PvE.
Realize this. Jedi is a PvP based profession. We are meant to be rare and extremely powerful. We are meant to be hunted and feared. Feel free to flame; however, you will just be justifying our own demise. There hasn’t been significant risk in the Jedi profession for quite some time. This is an attempt to get it back.
Whiney Jedi have lead to the downturn of this profession. We are not a PvE centric profession. We are not a ‘weekend warrior’ class. This was never meant to be ground out in a few weekends.
I am open for suggestions to improve this idea and I would highly suggest people think about it before opening their mouth.
Finally, I have thought about this in great depth, however, just because I haven’t written everything down to hand hold the weak minded through my logic, doesn’t mean this is not a viable option. You (and I use that term loosely to define anyone reading this) need to realize that many issues above and beyond these ideas would require far too much attention at this point in time. The purpose of this is to get people back on track and to once again make Jedi the powerhouse that is rare and difficult.
Alicce wrote:
I support this, amen brother. One thing I would be a little picky about is the 6 month cool down period, but if it's got to be done it's got to be done.
The whole reason for the 6 month cooling period is to give devs time to code changes, adjust to feedback, and to allow Jedi to adjust to the new system. 6 months may be an arbitrary number, but in dev speak probably right inline.
First of Court the day you become Corro over our proffession is the day i delete my jedi..
Secondly you started this thread simply for a flame fest troll session it should be deleted your talking about when the game was different all together after the Cu SWG 2 started far as im concerned ..Next time when you make a post put thought into it actually instead of what you think or rationilize is best for us what you may think is best many of the rest of us would not..
and the person with the adk comment your an idiot you dont have a clue of what your talking go back to your whole and get a clue..
i do not agree with you court or your Idea of what the jedi proffession should be.. and you can stop with the carebear comments cause its a ilttie bit worn out get a new line.........Fat chance of you ever becoming he Corrospondent...
I would support it.
Poktal wrote:
First of Court the day you become Corro over our proffession is the day i delete my jedi..
Secondly you started this thread simply for a flame fest troll session it should be deleted your talking about when the game was different all together after the Cu SWG 2 started far as im concerned ..Next time when you make a post put thought into it actually instead of what you think or rationilize is best for us what you may think is best many of the rest of us would not..
and the person with the adk comment your an idiot you dont have a clue of what your talking go back to your whole and get a clue..
i do not agree with you court or your Idea of what the jedi proffession should be.. and you can stop with the carebear comments cause its a ilttie bit worn out get a new line.........Fat chance of you ever becoming he Corrospondent...
Poktal wrote:
First of Court the day you become Corro over our proffession is the day i delete my jedi..
Secondly you started this thread simply for a flame fest troll session it should be deleted your talking about when the game was different all together after the Cu SWG 2 started far as im concerned ..Next time when you make a post put thought into it actually instead of what you think or rationilize is best for us what you may think is best many of the rest of us would not..
and the person with the adk comment your an idiot you dont have a clue of what your talking go back to your whole and get a clue..
i do not agree with you court or your Idea of what the jedi proffession should be.. and you can stop with the carebear comments cause its a ilttie bit worn out get a new line.........Fat chance of you ever becoming he Corrospondent...
Why do you label Court as a "troll" just becuz you don't like his idea?
The person who posted about the ADKs wasn't being serious.
Message Edited by xEPICx on 10-26-2005 02:14 PM