Jedi Archive

Thread: A Plea to the Devs!!!!

Jacella
Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:12 am
#66

/bump for exposure








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Costello
Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:13 am
#67






Vegitaa wrote:






JediNizar2 wrote:
JUST shut up!!!

You Jedi are always winning (I presume he meant whining)!!! wahhh we are nerfed! wahhh we neeed Pearls! weaahhhhhh were where is the FRS! wahh why is a are Doctor heals better than ours! why is aMASTER Medic so powerfull etc..... (Since publish 10 Jedi has recieved one nerf after another. I don't know what content you're talking about, far as I know all ROTW quests can be done without Jedi. Check the quest forums, everything from DWB to Necrosis has been done successfully without Jedi. Also, you can grind Doctor in a day if you know how. There's no way you can grind Master Healer in a day. That is why Jedi want their Healing Tree enhanced. Not to be better than Doctor, to be inline (balanced) with Doctor.)


You u jedi got have every thing everything in this damn game, in ervery every Patch tere there is content, bug fixesor change changes for the Jedi.... (Please point out this Jedi content. If you mean the Sunriders crystal or the Banes Heart then 2 crystals does not exactly constitute content. Correct me if I'm wrong but MBH NPC missions drop more crystals than any of the so called "Jedi" content.)


u You Jedi got to recieved an expansion just for u You ROTW and TOOW. (Umm.. again, where are these Jedi only quests? ROTW had very little to do with Jedi. Also ToOW does not have any Jedi only content. It is true that the final quests require a good strong group, but that does not mean they require a Jedi.)


in ROTW u YOU got a planet with safe XP grinding, no BH fear, u You got a lot of content with Boss Bosses that in 90% u need a require a jedi in your group. (Safe XP grinding? Yeppers, there was a bugged pathing issue that allowed a bunch of griefers to exploit the Rryyatt trail. That got "fixed" and personally I think every account that got caught down there exploiting should have been banned immediately. Again, you can complete any of these missions with a well selected group.)


in TOOW the same thing, except for the BH thing. (see above)


u You demand thatu you be treated with the respect of a loyal customer and an avid fan of this game??!!! well we do too. I have 2 toons, a Crafter

and a Smuugler. (You should be treated with the respect of a loyal customer as well. She referred to ALL professions recievig more bugs. Again, we will all agree Smugglers should be able to SMUGGLE. No one is denying that. The point is that the Jedi community has been getting singled out for about 14 patches now, and not in a good way. To "fix" other profs they break ours. Every other profession in-game can be achieved in less than a week. Jedi take months to unlock and even more to complete, we don't ask for special treatment. We ask for equal treatment, like getting some actual fixes instead of nerf's.)


and What did i get? What did the Smuggler Got get since Day 1....hell since Beta3 from in SWG???? NOTHING, and I don't want to write all the promis promises and nerfs that we got. Just check the History of the Smuggler thread in the Smuggler Forum.... (Yeah, we know. Remeber, every Jedi played multiple professions too. Not too mention we have secondary toons on our home servers. Many of which are smugglers, BH'ers, crafters. I have 2 Crafters (Shipwright/Merchant and Weaponsmith/Commando) in addition to my two Jedi. Smugglers deserve a major fix, long before there should have been a Ranger/Squad Leader patch. But again, that wasn't our fault. Stop blaming the players and start realizing who is in charge around here. It's not us, it's the Dev's.)


If i could i Would............arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <== Take a deep breathe and relax man. You're gonna give yourself a heart attack at the age of 12.




The above post does an elequent job of pointing out the mentality of the Jedi's true enemy. A screaming, frothing, beligerant, ignorant post. In bold are the corrections for those of us that speak english. In red are my responses.


Message Edited by Vegitaa on 10-18-2005 08:00 AM




That is one excellent response.



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Black_Merlin
Tue Oct 18, 2005 9:55 am
#68

*****

Well Said!



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iskareot
Tue Oct 18, 2005 9:58 am
#69

Man they would never give us back the patch 10 sabers.


Not to mention being brought back to that power... not with the 4week Jedi out there... it would be a mess I think.


If anything they need to time base things and then maybe that would curb some of this.



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In the context of new development methods adopted within the past year by the studio responsible for Star Wars Galaxies, which a year ago saw several drastic changes to the game-world's overall experience, SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes."
jobothehobbit
Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:15 am
#70

/agree

This is a good letter hope someone of importance reads it. I have 6 toons I pay on atm, just cancelled 2 and more are soon to follow. I currently have one foot out of the door and if SOE doesn't fix this crap soon I will be gone. Jedi should be stronger plain and simple. I should not be outdamaging My Jedi toon with a toon that took me all of 2 days to grind....ie rifles and swordsman both. been playing for over 2 years like a lot and tired of seeing the Jedi prof get pummeled to worthlessness and watch all my friends in game leave. I have met a lot of nice and tolerant people but SOE is testing the limits of many. Weaponsmith should be needed for some components of sabers, our robes should be crafted by tailors and some components for our robes should offer some protection which should need Armorsmith components.

Joe

USMC



If you decide to leave this game due to the lack of customer loyalty, continue to show them how big an impact it has made and stop purchasing any sony products. Over time they will realize that their customers should have been more important as they will lose millions.
Jobothehobbit USMC- MDOC/TKM-> Jedi MDOC MCM--> (unlocked 10 village skills)Weakest profession on server (Jedi) Account created Oct 2003
Jobo USMC -melee Stacker-> Jedi-MDEF MLS 2000 enhance 3000 heal--> Weakest profession on server (Jedi) Account Created June 2004
Daphee Doodle- Master AS/Smuggler --->Artisan AS/WS Account Created August 2004

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_Saevio_
Tue Oct 18, 2005 12:30 pm
#71

/salute


/agree


/fax to devs immediately





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mohacs
Tue Oct 18, 2005 12:54 pm
#72

/AMEN




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Jacella
Tue Oct 18, 2005 3:12 pm
#73






Brayla_Sana wrote:


I agree and disagree.


It seems that you are the victims of "nerfs," but a lot of this (not all) is at your (Jedi) own request - because you asked for a 1 on 1 BH/Jedi situation. In order to make this happen, they removed names from the terminals to make it more difficult (not impossible, but difficult) for BH in multiples tohunt Jedi. In return, they stealthily made Jedi/BH a one-on-one fight. They couldn't make BH much stronger - so the made Jedi weaker. Before you object to this hastily, look at the timeline of the major Jedi "nerfs," the change in crystal drops, and the removal of names from the terminals. Things that make you go hmmmm.


In retrospect, they should have decided to get their heads together and revamp Jedi/BH/Smuggler together instead of doing the carrot/nerf thing - because it is a worse mess for these professions now than if they would have left well enough alone. (Smugglers want to be on the terminals - smugglers want to smuggle - hence the reason I included them.)


What's the solution? How do we appropriately reward Jedi and still be able to have fair one-on-one Jedi vs BH Fights? Do we power Jedi up and put names back on the terms? Is there another answer?


Let's put our heads together - BH and Jedi - and get a solution going instead of just complaining. Cause even if it is justified (which it is,) we need to have a solution ready for this - or we are just whining as eloquently as we can.



(edited for spelling, lol)


Message Edited by Brayla_Sana on 10-18-2005 06:07 PM




I am actually against the 1 on 1 fights with BH's. I am for the gank squads. Maybe limiting them to a 5 on 1 situation, but a gank nonetheless. In order to make that happen, though, the jedi needs to have a reasonable chance to win...at least against 4 of the


Not all jedi asked for nerfs, some (most) of us asked to be enhanced to live up to the fictional base we are based on.





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DustusNavar
Tue Oct 18, 2005 3:59 pm
#74






Jacella wrote:


Jedi demand that we become something akin to what we worked for. We demand that we be treated with the respect of a loyal customer and an avid fan of this game. Many of us have forgone other games to play yours. We keep hoping that things will get better, but since patch 10, nothing has improved. Every profession has suffered. Enough of this, fix it!





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Methyl
Wed Oct 19, 2005 12:10 am
#75

Why dont ask guarr to read it isent that his job to be the link betwinne jedi and Dev? Or is it just another titel to make ppl think something is happening.



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Leatherneck_of_Alderaan
Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:45 am
#76






Brayla_Sana wrote:


Let's put our heads together - BH and Jedi - and get a solution going instead of just complaining. Cause even if it is justified (which it is,) we need to have a solution ready for this - or we are just whining as eloquently as we can.






Honestly Brayla, it doesn't make a whit of difference. I've seen some truly impressive solutions proposed by the people on the boards over time and none of them have been implemented.


So suggesting or whining, we're pretty much talking to ourselves here.



Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum
cahn-a-licious
Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:06 am
#77

time spent should be rewarded

period



Keed-Jedi
Cahn-not
I am a SOE customer. Now, if they would only treat me like one...
i used to be 4 accts out of 450k active accts
then 2 accts out of 250k
then 1 out of 200k
now 0 of 175k as of dec 25th....
i am a soe shareholder and do know how many active accts there are.
bluemaddog
Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:37 am
#78



Jacella wrote:
Dear Dev team and whoever else might care,
We are disillusioned. We feel cheated. We are losing our faith. Please listen to what we say, not all of what is said here is baseless.
So many nerfs and game changing events have taken place over the past 2 years and we are having a hard time ejoying the game when we know that any second a patch will come that will re-invent the systems and completely change the game that we have just adapted to again. We are tired of adapting with every new whim. We are tired of having something that works be broken with a new fix. Please stop fixing things!
The combat upgrade, RotW, JTL, and all patches since patch 9 have been seriously replete with inherent problems, exploits, and bugs. More bugs than a cheap New York apartment. Instead of constantly working on new expansions, why not just remove the bugs, finish your "combat balance", fix the content already in the code (battlefields and quests), fix the loots, fix the broken or worthless skills, add schematics for crafters, add content for entertainers, add palettes for Image designers, increase effectiveness of droids, add new buildings that archetects can craft, add and fix....but do not nerf jedi any more.
Jedi have been pummeled with every patch. Jedi have taken the brunt of every nerf and balance. Jedi have been screwed up more than any other profession becaus of these changes. Devs, we have to regrind every time a change happens, and we are sick of it! We don't want grinding to be the content for jedi. We don't want to be weak and worthless. We never asked for the Village and we never asked to be equal to other professions...we don't have to be. We do, however, have to deal with all the nerfs that every profession has pushed you to. The reasons many long tiume accounts are being closed or sold is due to these nerfs. You are losing the people that worked within the confines of your systems until they couldn't handle being punished for doing what was asked of them.
Jedi need a power increase, we need healing that can fulfill its purpose, we need templates that we can count on doing what they were crafted to do. We need weapons that are worthy of the Jedi profession, we need to be able to play the jedi that we worked so long and hard for. It's not our fault that you opened the floodgates so anyone can get a jedi in a few weeks or months, we shouldn't be punished for your shortsightedness.
Jedi demand that we become something akin to what we worked for. We demand that we be treated with the respect of a loyal customer and an avid fan of this game. Many of us have forgone other games to play yours. We keep hoping that things will get better, but since patch 10, nothing has improved. Every profession has suffered. Enough of this, fix it!
There are several options available...the easiest being to return jedi to the patch 10 level. Change how we make lightsabers (no pearls or crystals from loots, but crafted and in conjunction with weaponsmiths).
Fix us and then leave it alone. Our complaints are based on the fact that we have been abused by the steady stream of patches that have only nerfed us to oblivion. If you want there to be less jedi, then change the way jedi are unlocked, change the way visibility works, and make the path long and boring..you know, like the hologrinding or the solo grind.
Stop punishing the jedi, and start empowering them to a level that WE feel is acceptable. We don't want to be gods, but we do want to be stronger than the melee stackers and heal better than a CM that can be ground out in 4 hours.




I will only hope they listen to us. But they wont.. right now jeid is only a light show and show if u grind ur butt off u will get a jedi that can be beat by a bh/cm
with all the dots and debuffs...



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