Jedi Archive

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Jacella wrote:

Dear Dev team and whoever else might care,

We are disillusioned. We feel cheated. We are losing our faith. Please listen to what we say, not all of what is said here is baseless.

So many nerfs and game changing events have taken place over the past 2 years and we are having a hard time ejoying the game when we know that any second a patch will come that will re-invent the systems and completely change the game that we have just adapted to again. We are tired of adapting with every new whim. We are tired of having something that works be broken with a new fix. Please stop fixing things!

The combat upgrade, RotW, JTL, and all patches since patch 9 have been seriously replete with inherent problems, exploits, and bugs. More bugs than a cheap New York apartment. Instead of constantly working on new expansions, why not just remove the bugs, finish your "combat balance", fix the content already in the code (battlefields and quests), fix the loots, fix the broken or worthless skills, add schematics for crafters, addcontent for entertainers, add palettes for Image designers, increase effectiveness of droids, add new buildings that archetects can craft, add and fix....but do not nerf jedi any more.

Jedi have been pummeled with every patch. Jedi have taken the brunt of every nerf and balance. Jedi have been screwed up more than any other profession becaus of these changes. Devs, we have to regrind every time a change happens, and we are sick of it! We don't want grinding to be the content for jedi. We don't want to be weak and worthless. We never asked for the Village and we never asked to be equal to other professions...we don't have to be. We do, however, have to deal with all the nerfs that every profession has pushed you to. The reasons many long tiume accounts are being closed or sold is due to these nerfs. You are losing the people that worked within the confines of your systems until they couldn't handle being punished for doing what was asked of them.

Jedi need a power increase, we need healing that can fulfill its purpose, we need templates that we can count on doing what they were crafted to do. We need weapons that are worthy of the Jedi profession, we need to be able to play the jedi that we worked so long and hard for. It's not our fault that you opened the floodgates so anyone can get a jedi in a few weeks or months, we shouldn't be punished for your shortsightedness.

Jedi demand that we become something akin to what we worked for. We demand that we be treated with the respect of a loyal customer and an avid fan of this game. Many of us have forgone other games to play yours. We keep hoping that things will get better, but since patch 10, nothing has improved. Every profession has suffered. Enough of this, fix it!

There are several options available...the easiest being to return jedi to the patch 10 level. Change how we make lightsabers (no pearls or crystals from loots, but crafted and in conjunction with weaponsmiths).

Fix us and then leave it alone. Our complaints are based on the fact that we have been abused by the steady stream of patches that have only nerfed us to oblivion. If you want there to be less jedi, then change the way jedi are unlocked, change the way visibility works, and make the path long and boring..you know, like the hologrinding or the solo grind.

Stop punishing the jedi, and start empowering them to a level that WE feel is acceptable. We don't want to be gods, but we do want to be stronger than the melee stackers and heal better than a CM that can be ground out in 4 hours.

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That is an excellent post with a positive tone and all.

*****

/bow

Damn right.

Today I just found out form an independ TV show that WoW is the biggest online game and looking to be the most sucessful and its only been out a year. Maybe SOE should stop pushing people away from SWG and start listening to the players cause we aint going to EQ2 like you hoped.

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felipz wrote:

God I hate people that whine... stop whining and go learn how to pvp with your template. Do us a favor and please stop posting garbage, the developers don't 'read' the forums, so this thread is not in any way helpful and is just taking forum space.

Doesn't it look familiar ?

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I did not see Jacella whining in any way, so, please give the webtv remote back to your parents and go to bed...you have school tomorrow.

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Message Edited by felipz on 10-18-2005 06:12 AM

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TheNarcis wrote:

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Morwen wrote:

*****

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Somebody in SoE SHOULD read this post...

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Great post, *****

I gotta say I totally agree with you on Jedi being nerfed to oblivion... because we have lol. Like I said... great post /sign

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Jacella wrote:

Dear Dev team and whoever else might care,

We are disillusioned. We feel cheated. We are losing our faith. Please listen to what we say, not all of what is said here is baseless.

So many nerfs and game changing events have taken place over the past 2 years and we are having a hard time ejoying the game when we know that any second a patch will come that will re-invent the systems and completely change the game that we have just adapted to again. We are tired of adapting with every new whim. We are tired of having something that works be broken with a new fix. Please stop fixing things!

The combat upgrade, RotW, JTL, and all patches since patch 9 have been seriously replete with inherent problems, exploits, and bugs. More bugs than a cheap New York apartment. Instead of constantly working on new expansions, why not just remove the bugs, finish your "combat balance", fix the content already in the code (battlefields and quests), fix the loots, fix the broken or worthless skills, add schematics for crafters, addcontent for entertainers, add palettes for Image designers, increase effectiveness of droids, add new buildings that archetects can craft, add and fix....but do not nerf jedi any more.

Jedi have been pummeled with every patch. Jedi have taken the brunt of every nerf and balance. Jedi have been screwed up more than any other profession becaus of these changes. Devs, we have to regrind every time a change happens, and we are sick of it! We don't want grinding to be the content for jedi. We don't want to be weak and worthless. We never asked for the Village and we never asked to be equal to other professions...we don't have to be. We do, however, have to deal with all the nerfs that every profession has pushed you to. The reasons many long tiume accounts are being closed or sold is due to these nerfs. You are losing the people that worked within the confines of your systems until they couldn't handle being punished for doing what was asked of them.

Jedi need a power increase, we need healing that can fulfill its purpose, we need templates that we can count on doing what they were crafted to do. We need weapons that are worthy of the Jedi profession, we need to be able to play the jedi that we worked so long and hard for. It's not our fault that you opened the floodgates so anyone can get a jedi in a few weeks or months, we shouldn't be punished for your shortsightedness.

Jedi demand that we become something akin to what we worked for. We demand that we be treated with the respect of a loyal customer and an avid fan of this game. Many of us have forgone other games to play yours. We keep hoping that things will get better, but since patch 10, nothing has improved. Every profession has suffered. Enough of this, fix it!

There are several options available...the easiest being to return jedi to the patch 10 level. Change how we make lightsabers (no pearls or crystals from loots, but crafted and in conjunction with weaponsmiths).

Fix us and then leave it alone. Our complaints are based on the fact that we have been abused by the steady stream of patches that have only nerfed us to oblivion. If you want there to be less jedi, then change the way jedi are unlocked, change the way visibility works, and make the path long and boring..you know, like the hologrinding or the solo grind.

Stop punishing the jedi, and start empowering them to a level that WE feel is acceptable. We don't want to be gods, but we do want to be stronger than the melee stackers and heal better than a CM that can be ground out in 4 hours.

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/AMENSISTER !

Very Well Said Jacella !

Message Edited by JediJamie on 10-18-2005 04:12 AM

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JediNizar2 wrote:

JUST shut up!!!

You Jedi are always winning (I presume he meant whining)!!! wahhh we are nerfed! wahhh we neeed Pearls! weaahhhhhh were where is the FRS! wahh why is a are Doctor heals better than ours! why is aMASTER Medic so powerfull etc..... (Since publish 10 Jedi has recieved one nerf after another. I don't know what content you're talking about, far as I know all ROTW quests can be done without Jedi. Check the quest forums, everything from DWB to Necrosis has been done successfully without Jedi. Also, you can grind Doctor in a day if you know how. There's no way you can grind Master Healer in a day. That is why Jedi want their Healing Tree enhanced. Not to be better than Doctor, to be inline (balanced) with Doctor.)

You u jedi got have every thing everything in this damn game, in ervery every Patch tere there is content, bug fixesor change changes for the Jedi.... (Please point out this Jedi content. If you mean the Sunriders crystal or the Banes Heart then 2 crystals does not exactly constitute content. Correct me if I'm wrong but MBH NPC missions drop more crystals than any of the so called "Jedi" content.)

u You Jedi got to recieved an expansion just for u You ROTW and TOOW. (Umm.. again, where are these Jedi only quests? ROTW had very little to do with Jedi. Also ToOW does not have any Jedi only content. It is true that the final quests require a good strong group, but that does not mean they require a Jedi.)

in ROTW u YOU got a planet with safe XP grinding, no BH fear, u You got a lot of content with Boss Bosses that in 90% u need a require a jedi in your group. (Safe XP grinding? Yeppers, there was a bugged pathing issue that allowed a bunch of griefers to exploit the Rryyatt trail. That got "fixed" and personally I think every account that got caught down there exploiting should have been banned immediately. Again, you can complete any of these missions with a well selected group.)

in TOOW the same thing, except for the BH thing. (see above)

u You demand thatu you be treated with the respect of a loyal customer and an avid fan of this game??!!! well we do too. I have 2 toons, a Crafter

and a Smuugler. (You should be treated with the respect of a loyal customer as well. She referred to ALL professions recievig more bugs. Again, we will all agree Smugglers should be able to SMUGGLE. No one is denying that. The point is that the Jedi community has been getting singled out for about 14 patches now, and not in a good way. To "fix" other profs they break ours. Every other profession in-game can be achieved in less than a week. Jedi take months to unlock and even more to complete, we don't ask for special treatment. We ask for equal treatment, like getting some actual fixes instead of nerf's.)

and What did i get? What did the Smuggler Got get since Day 1....hell since Beta3 from in SWG???? NOTHING, and I don't want to write all the promis promises and nerfs that we got. Just check the History of the Smuggler thread in the Smuggler Forum.... (Yeah, we know. Remeber, every Jedi played multiple professions too. Not too mention we have secondary toons on our home servers. Many of which are smugglers, BH'ers, crafters. I have 2 Crafters (Shipwright/Merchant and Weaponsmith/Commando) in addition to my two Jedi. Smugglers deserve a major fix, long before there should have been a Ranger/Squad Leader patch. But again, that wasn't our fault. Stop blaming the players and start realizing who is in charge around here. It's not us, it's the Dev's.)

If i could i Would............arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <== Take a deep breathe and relax man. You're gonna give yourself a heart attack at the age of 12.

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Message Edited by Vegitaa on 10-18-2005 08:00 AM

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JediNizar2 wrote:

jsut shut up!!!

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