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Thread: State of the Jedi Profession: NGE Conversion

ArranSound
Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:38 pm
#53

My thoughts exactly, Baciacca.






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ChefRubio
Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:39 pm
#54


Nah they will probably just take away Corro from Bac like they did the old armorsmith coro when he complained


Then they'll give it to a NGE supporter like MsNil



Message Edited by ChefRubio on 11-09-2005 10:39 PM



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drmidnight
Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:39 pm
#55

This is all complete BS. This is more than a kick in the nuts. I was ready to accept the NGE with open arms, but the more I've read over this past week, the worse I've felt about this new "enhancement." Something has got to give. Is SOE really this bad off? Do they need that many new subscribers?How can we make our voices heard? Obviously, Garva said petitions, etc don't speak volumes. We need to put this in letter format and send this to the fine people of SOE and make our voices heard. This is just unacceptable.



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cahn-a-licious
Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:40 pm
#56

and do not get me started on skill tapes....there should be a special task force put aside to help the people that own these to convert them to useful mods. again, if you played this game you would know how difficult those are to attain in the right amounts and stacking or unstacking to get a nice set of clothes



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DrArgule
Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:41 pm
#57






drmidnight wrote:
This is all complete BS. This is more than a kick in the nuts. I was ready to accept the NGE with open arms, but the more I've read over this past week, the worse I've felt about this new "enhancement." Something has got to give. Is SOE really this bad off? Do they need that many new subscribers?How can we make our voices heard? Obviously, Garva said petitions, etc don't speak volumes. We need to put this in letter format and send this to the fine people of SOE and make our voices heard. This is just unacceptable.





Yes please...send your letters...write...call...flood them with constructive input....PLEASE!




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Ezkiel
Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:42 pm
#58

I 100% agree Bac


The way I see it the new jedi isnt balanced. My guess is Devs are gunshy with jedi because int he past Jedi have been powerful, and now they have done the oppisite to us. We are a step above trades combat wize. Lets recap what we have lost in the name of balance


1. any form of innate armor. Our only defense is a cnerter of being that we have to queue up and use instead of a special attack.


2. loss of effective root ability so we cant hold targets in place even for 5 seconds. this means we have to chase them all over h3ll and back to hit them. meanwhile getting kited. we have saber block you say? yes but guess what, if we use it we have to key ti up into our "specials" slot and thus no center of being or special attacks. This means Jedi is dogmeat in any pvp situation


3. our pearls and crystals we spent months gathering, killing for and speding millions of credits on are now dust. They are equivelent to a good pearl you can loot off a meatlump.


4. and lastly our actual wepaon damage. We cant even seem to autofire in this new version so we have to click every single attack. our attacks max speed is 2 attacks per second, while ranged get autoattack of 4 times per second. not to mention a ranged gun is twice the damage of a converted lightsaber. twice damage times twice the speed means the ranged folks will crank out 4 times the damage into our unarmored bodies.


This is the deathknoll for this popular star wars class. When new players come they will find it not onyl difficult to just play, but down right weak. it will be nothing like Kotor, or jedi outcast or any other game involving jedi. For goodness sakes SOE at least balance us. Im not asking to be more powerful, I just want a fighting chance!


KaShem
Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:42 pm
#59

/agree with Bac


I thought that the NGE was about balance.


How is a melee class expected to go up against ranged classes without Armor or a Root?






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Corso
Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:43 pm
#60






wildcat84 wrote:





Lunion wrote:

i just hope the game gets canceled rather then having to play this crap NGE, they said they took a risk well i hope it goes wrong sick of all the nerfs and changes which are not fun and just screw up the ppl who played for so long to get where they are right now, maybe someone with a brain will bring a new swg out with precu style and actually listen to us


soe are bunch of c*nts







I know from someone who has inside sources that SWG was GOING to be cancelled in January. They desperately sold LEC on the NGE, and were ordered to throw it in now.

NGE was to be the core of SWG2. It was barely started, and isn't near finished.

About all NGE will accomplish is to get SWG cancelled... In January.




First I agree with this. However, Fel, I am going to have to ask you to cite your sources.



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drmidnight
Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:44 pm
#61

Anyone care to volunteer to write an "official" constructive letter? Bac is on the right track, and I would definately sign and print 4 copies of this letter and send them to SOE (since I have 4 toons). I am cancelling my account effective immediately.



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Keals
Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:44 pm
#62

I have cancelled both of my accounts because of the NGE. I have unlocked 2 jedi was one of the first 10 jedi on my server and now having it brought to this and giving it anyway to anyone that wants it is the biggest slap to my face i have ever had in any game.


SOE I loved the game Pre-CU i liked the game alot Post-CU, i absolutly hate the NGE for multiple reasons but this is probally the top reason. What are you doing to jedi? Jedi aren't supposed to be = to everyone else....How is everyone having the same template fun? Its not....if i want a FPS ill play battlefront 2 which i'll be moving to now cause i don't have to pay to play a fps like that.


Hell Jedi are better in Battlefront 2 then in galaxies go figure there...





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muramasi
Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:44 pm
#63

I completely agree with Baiacca here, I remember when Jedi had to do the Holo grind, and what about the amount of xp they were getting back then? It was a nightmare but in the end Jedi were the alpha class in the game AS IT SHOULD ALWAYS BE, c'mon ask yourself will you read watch a star wars based movie episode without some Jedi action? No way right? You want to see Jedi doing what Jedi are good at..usng the force.


People or customers or vets who have invested money into this game as well as time are your most loyal and best customers because they make the community, I mean you didn't buy a car yesterday and when the manufacturer says that your fuel economy car or truck or whatever will be modified into a gas guzzler, or if that nice pizza you bought at the grocery store got nerfed by the dev and turned into an air freshner...you woulnd't be happy would you? Y not? because thats not what you paid for right? Maybe you spent months saving to buy that Rolex and when you buy it you find out Rolex just put out a new line of watches called Xelor thats worse then the original..then your gonna say I want that original back!!!


Point is customers started whinning about GCW unbalance and I rather live with that then to live with this, if I knew that all this was going to happen then I wouldn't have bothered as a customer to make investments in this field. Its just hard to believe that people pay money to play a game and they are doing all this...well since I haven't gave up yet I sure hope there will be some improvement for those who deserve it otherwise why should I continue to pay when I can probably play it for free on Playstation3??? Honestly I am playing more fun games then SWG and y do I continue t play this one? Because I'm a SW fan not SOE one so SOE is very lucky to have me and hundreds of other players as customers or we would be gone, but then again we can only take so much abuse like a vehicle till we break down...as a consumer I am just being honest as I have been loyal to the game.


mever005
Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:44 pm
#64



Guaarr, thanks for the great post.


All I can say is that this game is, "going down a path I can't follow."


Since it appears that our opinions are not being listened to, I guess I will have to speak with my money. If things don't change for the better in the next week to two, I will cancel my account as well. This is not the game I have enjoyed for a year+. Take care everyone.


Message Edited by mever005 on 11-09-2005 07:45 PM



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Khzar
Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:45 pm
#65

The Jedi of the past is gone and from what I have seen so far we are Brawlers with lightsabers (if even that), that is at least the feeling Im getting. The FS/Jedi class is the combination of the melee professions to make way for more blasters. I have yet to try a cl 80 Jedi in this system but it looks like most abilities are gone or moved to other classes.. Rangers/Spy got the cloak at least.

Think making Jedi a starting class is a mistake and removing so many abilities one as well (is sad to see the whole profession system go). I do think everyone should be able to become a Jedi, just not starting out as one.

And as for melee in this upcoming system, have been kited for hours already in this system and I have no doubt it will just get worse... just hope it isnt from NPCs as well.

Edit: Nice summary by the way.

Message Edited by Khzar on 11-10-2005 04:47 AM



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