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Thread: Jedi in the Combat Upgrade

Pahaddino
Sun Mar 20, 2005 3:28 pm
#53






Suba wrote:
Now we have the commando correspondent basiclly spilling the bean son stuff to thier people including this very disturbing line.

"BH will be very powerful Post-CU. Know how TKM templates now can pretty much wipe out some jedi? Yeah well, post-CU a BH ranged template will be just about the same... (In a one on one fight)"

Seems more and more its gonna be pointless to be a jedi






I had read this line yesterday but didn t wanted to reply adhoc.


Now with, from what I thought of it, it seems that each elite profession is given a combat role, and BH combat role will be one on one specialist. Knowing that commando role will be damage dealing specialist, a commando/BH combat (enough skill point post CU mind you to master both) will likely be the ultimate threat to jedis.


If the lockdown is maintain, BH are 1vs1 specialist and are insured to have only 1 target at a time. If more than 1 has the mission on you, this is gotta be ugly. It seems that just to survive that threat, jedi will have to go for 1 vs 1 specialist (everybody master LS, Master Defender ?) .


And don t think you are gonna force run away, because it looks like there will be skills to maintain a target locked in one place too...


Suba
Sun Mar 20, 2005 3:40 pm
#54

From whats being said it just doesnt seem like Jedi is gonna be worth it anymore. Lightsaber damage being removed,Ranged BH owning knights as much as melee do currently. Whats the point of grinding 6 months when you can do it in a few days and be equal if not more powerful. I really see a repeat of what happened at launch happening here. Bounty Hunter was so powerful everyone swarmed to it til they had to beat the profession to near death with the nerf stick.

Jedi Should be as powerful as 2.5 elite Professions based on whats being said not 1.5 Every other Character will have 2 Elite master Professions not 1 so why are we only equal to 1.5? For the time and effort to be a jedi we sure arent getting any rewards for the effort now.

I mean the developers have said no 100% we will be able to redistribute our skill sonly they are considering it. From the newest DOC they posted alone The Healer Trees in jedi are being butchered,the 3 lightsaber types being butchered etc yet only maybe redistribute skills? Ironiclly i thought we were already balanced yet now its were being slammed even harder then before.



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Catseye_Yellow
Sun Mar 20, 2005 3:45 pm
#55






Suba wrote:
From whats being said it just doesnt seem like Jedi is gonna be worth it anymore. Lightsaber damage being removed,Ranged BH owning knights as much as melee do currently. Whats the point of grinding 6 months when you can do it in a few days and be equal if not more powerful. I really see a repeat of what happened at launch happening here. Bounty Hunter was so powerful everyone swarmed to it til they had to beat the profession to near death with the nerf stick.

Jedi Should be as powerful as 2.5 elite Professions based on whats being said not 1.5 Every other Character will have 2 Elite master Professions not 1 so why are we only equal to 1.5? For the time and effort to be a jedi we sure arent getting any rewards for the effort now.

I mean the developers have said no 100% we will be able to redistribute our skill sonly they are considering it. From the newest DOC they posted alone The Healer Trees in jedi are being butchered,the 3 lightsaber types being butchered etc yet only maybe redistribute skills? Ironiclly i thought we were already balanced yet now its were being slammed even harder then before.





umm sorry I read some Jedi not Knights in the post please point that part out to me



Catseye Aviba MBH/Mcarb
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Crash752
Sun Mar 20, 2005 3:49 pm
#56






Suba wrote:
From whats being said it just doesnt seem like Jedi is gonna be worth it anymore. Lightsaber damage being removed,Ranged BH owning knights as much as melee do currently. Whats the point of grinding 6 months when you can do it in a few days and be equal if not more powerful. I really see a repeat of what happened at launch happening here. Bounty Hunter was so powerful everyone swarmed to it til they had to beat the profession to near death with the nerf stick.

Jedi Should be as powerful as 2.5 elite Professions based on whats being said not 1.5 Every other Character will have 2 Elite master Professions not 1 so why are we only equal to 1.5? For the time and effort to be a jedi we sure arent getting any rewards for the effort now.

I mean the developers have said no 100% we will be able to redistribute our skill sonly they are considering it. From the newest DOC they posted alone The Healer Trees in jedi are being butchered,the 3 lightsaber types being butchered etc yet only maybe redistribute skills? Ironiclly i thought we were already balanced yet now its were being slammed even harder then before.




You gave up the option for Jedi to be "as powerful as 2.5 elite Professions" when death penalties were removed. You are not Yoda. You are not even Luke Skywalker. Get over it.



Ehon- Radiant





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PlayerXXX
Sun Mar 20, 2005 3:56 pm
#57

TKA= Brawler, Unarmed Specialization Tree (4 boxes), Brawler, 2H Sword Specialization Tree (4 boxes)


umm question about this...what the heck would a unarmed martial artist gain from learing 2h skills if he is going to be using his fist to hit people... doesnt that defeat the purpose of being unarmed? I mean come thats just a bit unlogical..think about that
Pahaddino
Sun Mar 20, 2005 4:00 pm
#58

What it looks like, is that Jedi will be forced to have 2 masteries profession to be viable in combat, with the HAM change.

So my current dabbling template I like, is doomed, and I m currently regrinding to do a dual master.


If we get to retemplate (which I m not for since so manyfinished knighthave made money with the BH system), I want to be able to switch in a dual mastery, and that will be possible only with currently having a dual master...

Catseye_Yellow
Sun Mar 20, 2005 4:04 pm
#59






PlayerXXX wrote:

TKA= Brawler, Unarmed Specialization Tree (4 boxes), Brawler, 2H Sword Specialization Tree (4 boxes)


umm question about this...what the heck would a unarmed martial artist gain from learing 2h skills if he is going to be using his fist to hit people... doesnt that defeat the purpose of being unarmed? I mean come thats just a bit unlogical..think about that






maybe the new weapons are a UA certed 2h weapon?.. maybe they are giving the locked fists attack to UA which uses both hands? maybe they just couldnt think of another prereq for UA and went 2h.. you note that all profs will have two non elite pre-reqs



Catseye Aviba MBH/Mcarb
Some-One Important Msmuggler/MMerchant
K'Teak Moonsong TKM/Commando
Newmoon
Sun Mar 20, 2005 4:05 pm
#60






Bobo3k wrote:

takes lightsaber to head......../ignite







LOL!


Nice, I like your style!



No sig needed.
Catseye_Yellow
Sun Mar 20, 2005 4:06 pm
#61






Bobo3k wrote:

takes lightsaber to head......../ignite






too bad your not master and missed



Catseye Aviba MBH/Mcarb
Some-One Important Msmuggler/MMerchant
K'Teak Moonsong TKM/Commando
pervel
Sun Mar 20, 2005 4:26 pm
#62

I have posted some concerns I have about the new HAM system and the Jedi healing skills in this thread. SonG, please comment on those concerns and have them in mind when you discuss CU changes with the devs.

BallsBisnac
Sun Mar 20, 2005 4:28 pm
#63






Rhayven wrote:
SG, i know the nda does not limit my question: Is any regard being given to other correspondents who are blatantly breaking the NDA (just read the commando correspondent doing it a sec ago...at least Tanks only BORDERS on doing it)? I feel like we are being penalized since you actually have some morality and self-restraint





Where is the commando correspondants post on this? I was looking, but I could not find it. Has it been deleted already?



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Salebow
Sun Mar 20, 2005 4:29 pm
#64


I'll tell u what, if they change saber damage to "energy" that means there will be resists. There should NOT and i repeat SHOULD NOT BE ANY RESISTS TO A LIGHTSABER. PERIOD.


This is bullcrap, and i expect the entire community to come down on SOE like no other if this happens. THIS IS crap.



*EDIT* fine folks happy now?

Message Edited by Salebow on 03-20-2005 05:38 PM



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Xeries
Sun Mar 20, 2005 4:29 pm
#65

I can see it now learn your Favorite star wars languages while you sleep on 4 cd's 49.99 LOL



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