Jedi Archive
Thread: Bounty Hunters are more powerful than post-CU Jedi can deal with.
now i hope all post cu jedi dont take this to heart. i am a pre cu knight and yes i know pearls are borked atm and probably stay like that for awhile but the only thing u can do is learn ur jedi by dueling mbh's inur guildor bh friendsu know only that way will u be able to probably beat them with wat u have.
i have only ever lost to i think 5 bh's in the time i have been a jedi and 2 of them were not even a fight as one i was ld and the other i was afk but the other 3 were realy good bh's. i have a bh kill list of must be 28 on my bio and some of them i killed 3 or 4 times wich takes my taly to well over 30.
But the only advice i can give is to duel stay in hiding till u can hold ur own more against bh's.
MIND-BLOWING!
KalamMerkor wrote:
RosaShyanne wrote:
KalamMerkor wrote:
Its prty easy to get a 851 dps rifle (with only mbh skill) and with cm this means atm mbh can be more powerfull than post cu jedi, however it should be this way. Dont choke, fully template jedi should be a fair match for fully templated bh, frs should eb the diferentiated not more additions to pre frs templates
- kalam
I only agree with this comment as everyone is a padawan. Once we start reaching Knight, Guardian, Master, the Jedi should find these fights much easier. Padawan should be on par with MBH temps, Knights/Guardians should be at minimum 1.5x powerful, and master at least 3x as powerful.
Lol well that was the comment in its enirity. :/ Atm everyone is just padawan. People need to sit down and wait for frs before getting all worrying.
- Kalam
Honestly im really sick of seeing "wait for frs, then we'll be 1.5x stronger" FINE by me, but honeslty I want to be 1x as strong, I want it to be at least a 50/50 fight as a FULL TEMPLATE PADAWAN without having to take master powers to defend myself. For MANY jedi on my server, this just simply is not the case. Either you have under a 600damage saber and you get owned, or you have 700ish+ and you don't need to worry much about death. Pre-jedi I was (nearly) undefeated in pvp high 1700s for my record, it wasnt until I became a fully templated jedi with maxed out Cas and a 610damage 30fc (after hundreds of pearls/crystals) saber that I started loosing. And granted, I can always run lol... but that's not why I worked so much HARDER towards jedi than I ever had to work when I was a normal profession. -40 debuff (smug/pike/cm) + 75% ab slicing + 4000doc or 4000cm = a loooooong damn fight with any other professional skills and ultimatly its "the force" that kills us. heh, maybe if I had a nice spice or some chef foods to buff my force regen to something noticeable in a fight like a mind pool hopped up on mandowine/docbuffs/boosterblue -shrug-
Message Edited by Saereth on 09-26-2005 01:43 AM
Kael21 wrote:
Skurr wrote:
phant0mTA wrote:
every template has its positives and its negatives but 1 thing always holds true. Know how to use ur template, use the right foods and use strategy! i have had a ton of mbh mcm attack me and i beat them all or made them run and im not even mls. So before you come here and complain saying ohh they unbeatable i think u need to learn how to pvp and u need to learn your template.
felhammer
I fully agree here.
Myself as a TKM/MSwords/Mbrawler I have beat my fair share of Jedi. Yet I have got owned by a couple. One beat after 5 min with a pre-cu sabre.Another just yesterdaythat I believe was exploiting, killed me, fully fooded up and cranked over 750+ defensein addition to a psg in 4 FRIGGING HITS in like 5 secs. He claimed that He was just good. So i then and there challenged his buddy that was with him in Full Ris w/ power hammer and wentfor 30 min plus before he incapped me. I wear no armor nor have any attatchments. Just a sliceADKed Knucklers. So jedi have their tricks...they are not the gimped profession that the original poster is tying to make them out to be. Know your templete
Lol, skurr, that was me the other day and i'll swear before everyone that i wasn't using any exploit that i know about. Also, it wasn't 4 hits, it took me maybe 30 seconds but i had you armor broken, dizzy, and was alternating between body hits and power hits with a good pre-cu saber. I also don't generally have trouble with bounty hunters of any breed, never had one that i haven't killed.
Im not going to beat this in the ground. It was 4 clean hits. I accepted your duel. I then ABed you for 0 hit points. You hit me for 852. You then hit me for 1023. You then hit me for 1230 and icapped me. Then you hit me for 1200 something.Four hits. No dizzy and no AB from you. Nothing else. I NEVER GOT A HIT IN. Im not some nub to PvP and Coawie is the only other Jedi to totatlly own me and it took him over 3-5 min with an uberpre-cu sabre. My immediate fight with your buddy proved that my defenses were in order. I have never seen a Jedi hit that hard through defenses that toughand incappsomeone that quick. Even in the Imp vs Reb war that happened in Bestine after wardI watched as you were3 hit incapping people in full RIS. Say what you want....it that is fun to you so be it.
If you wernt exploiting you just prove my point that Jedi are far from gimped and/or have thier own tricks.
BHs weren't happy until they got a couple I WIN buttons and equipment too. Jedi don't have access to doc healing, good armor, combat medic debuffs. Every single Jedi skill is more useless than its regular profession counterpart.
Jedi issupposed to be the f*cking Alpha class of SWG. If any profession deserves an I win button it's sure as hell not the n00b with the template he ground out in three weeks, and the equipmenthe ground BH missions for week to get enough cash to buy.
Let's stop this PC beating around the bush, Jedi are supposed to be Alpha Class, BHs are not, BHs are supposed to have the tough time in a BH vs Jedi fight, Jedi are not. That's the reason multiple BHs were supposed to be able to fight a Jedi, not this one on one crap that has caused so many problems.
Just because it's one on one now doesn't meanBHs areentitled to win even1/4th of the time. The BH system wasn't designed to instill fear or hamper full templates, but to successfully pick off the lower Jedi. Once you are a full template Jedi you should never have a problem smoking a BH unless he catches you when you are weak.
Nuff said. If you want to be the Alpha class go get a Jedi. There's not enough room in the galaxy for two of em.
Message Edited by LandonRyuu on 09-25-2005 11:40 PM
LandonRyuu wrote:
BHs weren't happy until they got a couple I WIN buttons and equipment too. Jedi don't have access to doc healing, good armor, combat medic debuffs. Every single Jedi skill is more useless than its regular profession counterpart.
Jedi is supposed to be the f*cking Alpha class of SWG. If any profession deserves an I win button it's sure as hell not the n00b with the template he ground out in three weeks, and the equipment he ground BH missions for week to get enough cash to buy.
Let's stop this PC beating around the bush, Jedi are supposed to be Alpha Class, BHs are not, BHs are supposed to have the tough time in a BH vs Jedi fight, Jedi are not. That's the reason multiple BHs were supposed to be able to fight a Jedi, not this one on one crap that has caused so many problems.
Just because it's one on one now doesn't mean BHs are entitled to win even 1/4th of the time. The BH system wasn't designed to instill fear or hamper full templates, but to successfully pick off the lower Jedi. Once you are a full template Jedi you should never have a problem smoking a BH unless he catches you when you are weak.
Nuff said. If you want to be the Alpha class go get a Jedi. There's not enough room in the galaxy for two of em.
Message Edited by LandonRyuu on 09-25-2005 11:40 PM
If Jedi have it so bad, why are you one?
LandonRyuu wrote:
Smart @ss question but not smart enough.
Because it was the only thing in the game I hadn't done. Plus I am an old school holo grinder. Pre-pathetic era Jedi.
People like you might get your wish with your questions like: "If Jedi suck so much why are you one?" And my favorite, I know you're just raring to ask: "If you hate this game so much why don't you quit?"
My answer is yeah, 75% of my server already did and I'm out Nov. 1st unless Trials of Obi Wan is a miracle. Which it won't be. I'vegiven them enough time, theygive content then take itaway. (FRS, Pearls, Loot). They break things thatdon't need to be broken and don't fix issues that are simple,and Iwon't deal with that anymore.
As for you. Consider this: Soon you won't have anyone else tobe smart@ss to, to askwhy they don'tleave, you'll be left alone, and if you're still playing this game at that point, up until they close the game,well then, you're one of the suckers born every minute.
Do you really think all the vets that've been around as long as I have would be quitting left and right unless this game had hit rock bottom? Truth is, it hit rock bottom a couple Publishes ago and is just digging further down at this point. An expansion won't save this game. Nothing will save this game but a serious injection of $$$ and New Talent. Both of which we will not see in a game this old with so few subscribers as SWG has.
Message Edited by LandonRyuu on 09-26-2005 12:48 AM
Message Edited by LandonRyuu on 09-26-2005 12:51 AM
It's sad to say but this guy is 100% right
Message Edited by LandonRyuu on 09-26-2005 12:48 AM
Message Edited by LandonRyuu on 09-26-2005 12:51 AM
Genildor wrote:
Even an alpha class like Jedi, needs to have atleast onecounter profession. If you agree,why should that profession be any other profession but Bounty Hunter?
BH is not an aplha class and if SOE wish to make it so, Bounty Hunters should have a Village and all the rest of the stuff you go to get Jedi, like horrid XP conversions and quests to unlock. The whole thing with Bounty Hunters is that they don't have to do this and so should not be as strong as a normal fully templated padawan!
Give Jedi content and I don't mean BH stuff, fine remove Jedi from GCW and make it a Sith vs Jedi!
Ohh you want the fun of a BH attacking you, lets have NPC Bounty Hunters and we could still have the Vis system. Just no non NPC Bounty Hunters, This would cut down on Griefing and much bad feeling between Jedi and Bounty Hunters. After all it is a fact that Bounty Hunters never hunted anyting but NPC's at the start of the game.
We could even add NPC smuggler Bounty Hunter misssions in space!
LandonRyuu wrote:
BHs weren't happy until they got a couple I WIN buttons and equipment too. Jedi don't have access to doc healing, good armor, combat medic debuffs. Every single Jedi skill is more useless than its regular profession counterpart.
Jedi issupposed to be the f*cking Alpha class of SWG. If any profession deserves an I win button it's sure as hell not the n00b with the template he ground out in three weeks, and the equipmenthe ground BH missions for week to get enough cash to buy.
Let's stop this PC beating around the bush, Jedi are supposed to be Alpha Class, BHs are not, BHs are supposed to have the tough time in a BH vs Jedi fight, Jedi are not. That's the reason multiple BHs were supposed to be able to fight a Jedi, not this one on one crap that has caused so many problems.
Just because it's one on one now doesn't meanBHs areentitled to win even1/4th of the time. The BH system wasn't designed to instill fear or hamper full templates, but to successfully pick off the lower Jedi. Once you are a full template Jedi you should never have a problem smoking a BH unless he catches you when you are weak.
Nuff said. If you want to be the Alpha class go get a Jedi. There's not enough room in the galaxy for two of em.
Message Edited by LandonRyuu on 09-25-2005 11:40 PM
/agree